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Pod kill after a duel?

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Jaiell
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-02-27 02:34:12 UTC
A duel ends when one of two conditions are met:

1.One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed.

2.Exchange of fire ceases for more than five minutes, allowing the timer to run out, concluding the limited engagement period.

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So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#2 - 2013-02-27 02:40:06 UTC
Duels are limited engagements so you can and will be podded
Lashenadeeka
Qinglong Fleet
Jade Kirin Alliance
#3 - 2013-02-27 02:40:19 UTC
Jaiell wrote:

1.One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed.

2.Exchange of fire ceases for more than five minutes, allowing the timer to run out, concluding the limited engagement period.


If that's a direct quote of the in-game description then the description needs changed - it is misleading I agree.
Arox Dax
Empire of Decadence
Empire of Decadence.
#4 - 2013-02-27 02:52:40 UTC
Jaiell wrote:



So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.


Because that little squishy sound your pod makes just as it explodes into tiny little pieces is so addictive

Edited for crap spelling :P
Jon Joringer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-02-27 02:58:33 UTC
I see this happen all the time. Pods left sitting there, then blown up. I'm assuming a lot of people still don't know (or rather, a lot of people are still finding out) that Limited Engagements allow for podding.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-02-27 03:02:38 UTC
I learned many years ago that if you're about to be in a pod you gtfo before someone can lock it and hope there are no smartbombs Big smile

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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#7 - 2013-02-27 03:06:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
Staying docked is a good way to avoid this unsavoury stuff

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-02-27 03:08:20 UTC
You can and probably will get podded after losing a duel.

I do agree that CCP isn't clear on this with the in-game instructions regarding a duel, it's rather misleading.

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Jaiell
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-02-27 03:11:55 UTC
I'm quite aware of the risks taken in PvP but when ccp state on their brag page that a duel ends when "One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed." I expected to grats my challenger and head in for anouther ship. I have sent a petition but im guessing thousands have done the same....
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#10 - 2013-02-27 03:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
like the lure of the chocolate river was to Augustus in Willy Wonka's factory ?

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-02-27 03:23:54 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You can and probably will get podded after losing a duel.

I do agree that CCP isn't clear on this with the in-game instructions regarding a duel, it's rather misleading.


It's the Eve way... "they'll figure it out when it happens and be better for it" approach is the best approach

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2013-02-27 03:34:03 UTC
Jaiell wrote:
A duel ends when one of two conditions are met:

1.One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed.

2.Exchange of fire ceases for more than five minutes, allowing the timer to run out, concluding the limited engagement period.

...
So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.



This is indeed quite unclear.

I can find no clarification in the Evelopedia entry nor the original Dev Blog.

But IF the Duel is over when one ship is destroyed, if you are podded, CONCORD should have responded, in my opinion, and removed the podder from their ship.

Did that even happen ?

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fukier
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-02-27 03:49:31 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Crimewatch#Limited_Engagements

the way how a limited engagement works is its not tied to the ship but the player.

and since it creates a 5 minute window where two players can engage in legal hostilities (which is an agreement between two pod pilots and not two ships) it is up to said players to negotiate before the fight if its to the death or fist blood.
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Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#14 - 2013-02-27 03:53:27 UTC
Arox Dax wrote:
Jaiell wrote:

So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.


Because that little squishy sound your pod makes just as it explodes into tiny little pieces is so addictive

Edited for crap spelling :P


Wait, what? Eve has sound?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-02-27 04:16:29 UTC
So players can now officially pod each other in high security with no Concord reprisal and no security status hit if they're in a duel?

Heh, seems CCP conveniently forgot to include that little bit of information.



DMC

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Orlacc
#16 - 2013-02-27 04:25:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Wait. Did Concord kill the other pilot after you were podded? If so all is right with the world.


I don't think dueling makes your pod invulnerable. This isn't Goldshire.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-02-27 04:25:48 UTC
ANY condition in which you can attack another player legally also allows you to pod them legally.
In ANY area of space.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#18 - 2013-02-27 04:43:36 UTC
The feature page on the Retribution site does indeed state that the engagement is supposed to end when the ship is destroyed.

The patch notes and In Development video state quite clearly that a limited engagement is in force for the purposes of duelling. Of course not many people will be aware that a limited engagement applied between two pilots, not two spaceships.

So the Retribution features page really does need to be updated.

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Klyde
Lost Wacko's
#19 - 2013-02-27 04:50:10 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
So players can now officially pod each other in high security with no Concord reprisal and no security status hit if they're in a duel?

Heh, seems CCP conveniently forgot to include that little bit of information.



DMC



awesome, i hated the fact duels were brought into the game, but this makes it a bit better Pirate
Lady Areola Fappington
#20 - 2013-02-27 05:03:30 UTC
I like the way CCP implemented duels into EVE. They don't even really matter, per se.

It's even more fun when people swear to you that starting a duel prevents other people from interfering, stops at the pod, and (best so far) ends at 1 struct.

This is EVE. E-bushido is out the window. If i can convince you to restrict yourself to some silly rules like "1v1", I'm bringing 5 bros to explod you.

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