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Fixing Small Gang PvP, AFK Cloaking, and Local

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Lee Dalton
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-02-24 19:11:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lee Dalton
Hi Assembly Hall,

I would like to propose a small addition to the current game mechanics that will help drive small gang PvP, fix AFK cloaking, and complains local. This will also STOP BOTTING.

I anticipate this to be a confict driver and ISK sink for EVE, having a significant impact on all players in high, low, and nullsec. It will drive emergent gameplay and full utilise the sandbox.

ADD OXYGEN BAYS TO ALL SHIPS

Each ship will have a NEW, SPECIALISED type of cargohold. This cargohold will only be able to hold oxygen to prevent exploitation of this system.

Every minute, 1 unit of oxygen is depleted (i.e. each unit of oxygen allows a ship to be undocked for 1 minute). When a ship runs out of oxygen, the capsuleer suffocates and dies. At this point another capsuleer may board his ship (granting killrights, as this is like stealing a car from a dead man IRL).

This will really boost industry, isk faucets, and conflict mechanics and create exciting new situations for players.

Please upvote this proposal and help this change be bring in for the summer expansion!

Thanks,

L33

EDIT:

This will also tie in with Dust. You will be able to deploy commandos to assault an enemy ship and attack their oxygen bay. By swapping the oxygen for a deadly nerve gas you will be able to effectively neutralise the enemy ships crew, allowing it to be stolen!
Intaki guy
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#2 - 2013-02-24 19:13:18 UTC
This NEEDS to be done.
Reza Najafi
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
#3 - 2013-02-24 19:22:42 UTC
2/10 Dalton
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2013-02-24 20:30:31 UTC
You are the worst.

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Cyprus Black
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-02-24 22:06:06 UTC
Worst idea ever to fix a mechanic that isn't actually broken.

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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#6 - 2013-02-24 22:54:36 UTC
O LAWD

wumbo

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#7 - 2013-02-25 07:22:01 UTC
This is even worse than that "all ships should have fuel bays and operate at 1/10 capabilities when empty" idea.
Fatgai Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-25 09:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Fatgai Udan
This would ruin long-haul courier contracts unless freighters had ridiculously massive oxygen bays (similar sort of problem for miners), terrible idea.
Langbaobao
Tr0pa de elite.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-02-25 12:32:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Langbaobao
I fully endorse this idea. Whoever does not approve it supports botting. Pirate

Edit:
PS. In particular mining ships should have small oxygen bays to fight botting. Like 15 min of oxygen, so they cannot bot with those Mackinaws with huge ore bays.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-02-25 23:26:25 UTC
Yes please, lets force all WH players to live out of highsec so they can get their oxygen fix.


lets just hope something like this doesnt actually happen, since some WH player SOMEWHERE would dig up this thread, blame you, and then grief until you quit forever.
Kossaw
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#11 - 2013-02-26 11:38:18 UTC
What an awesome idea.

Logged off bittervets should also require oxygen. When you log in your titan after 3 weeks inactivity it is only fair that you should persihfrom lack of air.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#12 - 2013-02-26 13:04:37 UTC
Jeebus, what a crap idea.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2013-02-26 17:04:47 UTC
This is either one of the best trolls in here, or a ill thought out, tedious, game breaking change suggestion. Shocked

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#14 - 2013-02-26 18:50:49 UTC
Lee Dalton wrote:
At this point another capsuleer may board his ship (granting killrights, as this is like stealing a car from a dead man IRL).

This will also tie in with Dust. You will be able to deploy commandos to assault an enemy ship and attack their oxygen bay. By swapping the oxygen for a deadly nerve gas you will be able to effectively neutralise the enemy ships crew, allowing it to be stolen!


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Rico Minali
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-28 17:58:11 UTC
As long as the oxygen bay holds enough oxygen for about 28 days of being online. Because alot of people like to go on trips deep into hostile space alone and without backup and stay there hunting for long periods of time.

What a dumbass idea.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

Lee Dalton
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-03-03 20:59:20 UTC
Hi Hello,

There have been a number of trollish replies in this thread - however I will endeavor to give a serious response so that CCP see the excellence and quality of this idea and implement it by summer.

Fatgai Udan wrote:
This would ruin long-haul courier contracts unless freighters had ridiculously massive oxygen bays (similar sort of problem for miners), terrible idea.


Refuel in space, like American fighter jets, they could call this feature "space docking", where Deep Sapce Transports refuel hungry hungry freighters.

Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Yes please, lets force all WH players to live out of highsec so they can get their oxygen fix.


lets just hope something like this doesnt actually happen, since some WH player SOMEWHERE would dig up this thread, blame you, and then grief until you quit forever.



I realise that WH residents are mostly carebears hauling T3 loot out to sell in highsec, but those same supply chains could be used to bring oxygen INTO your wormhole!

Rico Minali wrote:
As long as the oxygen bay holds enough oxygen for about 28 days of being online. Because alot of people like to go on trips deep into hostile space alone and without backup and stay there hunting for long periods of time.

What a dumbass idea.


I commend you wanting to role play a German U-boat. Perhaps this should be a new class of ship, designed for long term undercover missions!
Ala Bamma
Virtual Democracy
PodHub
#17 - 2013-03-03 22:04:45 UTC
I like, but not this way. oxygen would drive up the price of actual oxygen and give market exploiters something to funnel to themselves and their corps. Noobs would never be able to undock. Anarchy would insue
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-03-04 13:06:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Lee Dalton wrote:

Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Yes please, lets force all WH players to live out of highsec so they can get their oxygen fix.


lets just hope something like this doesnt actually happen, since some WH player SOMEWHERE would dig up this thread, blame you, and then grief until you quit forever.



I realise that WH residents are mostly carebears hauling T3 loot out to sell in highsec, but those same supply chains could be used to bring oxygen INTO your wormhole!


The hilarious part about this idea is that it won't impact the actual WHbears at all as they can simply make an excess of oxygen in their home system via PI. It'll make "burying" scan alts, deep solo roaming (hunting PI haulers, miners, gassers), and such a chore at best, though. Never mind people who roam hostile 0.0 space, where they can't exactly dock up for resupply.

Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why WH people don't complain about AFK cloakers in their systems?
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#19 - 2013-03-04 15:00:14 UTC
wants to make bearing in null easier

makes digs at wormhole players being bears

nice try, bearboy
Lee Dalton
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-03-19 13:48:36 UTC
I hope all future CSM candidates take this cause up.
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