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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-26 17:28:14 UTC
Nope, Occupy Oakland.
Cops using flashbangs on people trying to help someone that got hurt

http://youtu.be/QqNOPZLw03Q

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-10-26 23:34:43 UTC
lol the cops are trying to get Google and Youtube to pull the videos of the incident

http://rt.com/news/google-report-police-brutality-767/

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#3 - 2011-10-27 00:26:58 UTC
As for the article on Google's "censorship": There's no discussion on the content of the videos being taken down. I've seen quite a bit on youtube that *is* "defaming law enforcement officials". We're not talking about video evidence of wrongdoing, we're talking about videos of people talking about stuff they know nothing about.

I have a very hard time sympathizing with these protesters. You want America to hear you? Take off your masks and demonstrate peacefully. Don't act surprised and scream brutality when the police warn you a dozen times that they're about to use force to disperse an illegal crowd.

Women's suffrage was won through peaceful, open protest. Civil rights were won through quiet passive resistance. Why do people suddenly think that Guy Fawkes masks and bandanas are going to endear them to the public? Change will come not through conflict with police, but through showing the people why they should be outraged at the status quo. Looking like paranoid fringe lunatics yelling on a street corner won't do that.

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Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-27 01:10:05 UTC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/iraq-vet-oakland-police-tear-gas_n_1033159.html

nice, shot an iraq war vet in the face (thats him on the ground by the way in that first video where ppl get flashbanged for trying to help him) with a gas round. He's in the ICU now apparently, and noone knows if he's gonna be alright.

Im sorry, it was pretty ****** for that cop to toss a grenade into a group of people OBVIOUSLY trying to help someone that got hurt. You can tell HE knows its ****** up as he drops back behind his fellow officers before he lobs it.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#5 - 2011-10-27 01:51:43 UTC
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
Im sorry, it was pretty ****** for that cop to toss a grenade into a group of people OBVIOUSLY trying to help someone that got hurt. You can tell HE knows its ****** up as he drops back behind his fellow officers before he lobs it.

Agreed. If he can be identified, he should be sanctioned and possibly fired for reckless endangerment. There was no need for that.

There also was no need for twenty people to help one guy, and it was sad to see just how many of them were "helping" by pointing cameras. Doesn't justify anything the cop did, I'm just pointing out that some of them weren't as altruistic as it might appear.

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-10-27 01:55:57 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
Im sorry, it was pretty ****** for that cop to toss a grenade into a group of people OBVIOUSLY trying to help someone that got hurt. You can tell HE knows its ****** up as he drops back behind his fellow officers before he lobs it.

Agreed. If he can be identified, he should be sanctioned and possibly fired for reckless endangerment. There was no need for that.

There also was no need for twenty people to help one guy, and it was sad to see just how many of them were "helping" by pointing cameras. Doesn't justify anything the cop did, I'm just pointing out that some of them weren't as altruistic as it might appear.


Theres this, theres a guy standing behind the hurt guy st first that looks like he's filming him before he tries to help him.

Thats the "thing that happened to Bill Nye" effect

Bill Nye collapsed at a conference and the rest of the audience just started posting pictures rather than trying to help

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-27 02:51:27 UTC
**** the police

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-10-27 03:44:07 UTC
Headerman wrote:
**** the police


Cant say I disagree here

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stoicfaux
#9 - 2011-10-27 04:17:17 UTC
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#10 - 2011-10-27 04:58:27 UTC
Headerman wrote:
**** the police


**** the individual officers who do any more than is absolutely necessary to enforce the law in situations like this. There are probably a hundred good cops in that line hoping nothing goes wrong and wishing these kids would just disperse and get a protest permit so things wouldn't escalate.

Of all the interactions I've had with police over the years, all but a few were completely positive on the part of the officer. Have a good attitude and let them get their jobs done quickly and they'll generally return the favor. But then I live in Texas. Maybe we just have a better breed of cop here.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2011-10-27 04:59:38 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."


Logical, but still...he put an explosive device into a crowd of people. It could have been ten feet away and had the same effect.

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Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-10-27 05:29:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod
stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."



would be true is you dont realize he was sitting front row then backed behind his friends before lobbing the grenade

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/iraq-vet-oakland-police-tear-gas_n_1033159.html

that was the guy that was on the ground

US military man, two tours in Iraq, never injured there, shot in the face by a gas canister

FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."


Logical, but still...he put an explosive device into a crowd of people. It could have been ten feet away and had the same effect.


This too. He deliberately aimed for the center of the group with an explosive. He was looking to cause damage.

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-10-27 16:30:58 UTC
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."



would be true is you dont realize he was sitting front row then backed behind his friends before lobbing the grenade

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/iraq-vet-oakland-police-tear-gas_n_1033159.html

that was the guy that was on the ground

US military man, two tours in Iraq, never injured there, shot in the face by a gas canister

FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."


Logical, but still...he put an explosive device into a crowd of people. It could have been ten feet away and had the same effect.


This too. He deliberately aimed for the center of the group with an explosive. He was looking to cause damage.


Hope they figure out who he is an get his ass fired

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Citizen20100211442
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-10-27 18:06:33 UTC
NWO is near..

To be, or not to be, that's the question.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#15 - 2011-10-27 18:33:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Not that the round was lethal but that copper is lucky none of them are hack sackers Big smile

That being said, the douche is a douche.

EDIT:

Selective quoting:

FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
illegal crowd.
LolLolLol

Granted I am not keeping up with everything that is going down, but that is a public street in this video.

END Selective Quoting:

stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."



Police are supposed to be trained to show restraint until a direct threat to their life is presented. There were no direct threats to his life or his partners.



Slade
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-10-27 19:04:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
The guy who chucked the flash-bang had a gas mask on. He might not have seen the guy on the ground and simply reacted to the threat of a gathering "mob."



would be true is you dont realize he was sitting front row then backed behind his friends before lobbing the grenade

This too. He deliberately aimed for the center of the group with an explosive. He was looking to cause damage.


my own selective quoting. Didnt feel like typing what had already been said lol
He hid behind the other officers like he was about to do something bad an he didnt want to get caught

http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-protesters-rally-around-wounded-veteran-135137776.html

Fractured skull :p thats what the guy that took the gas round to the face got

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Barakkus
#17 - 2011-10-27 19:34:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Barakkus
The cops at this protest didn't **** with this guy...
http://youtu.be/WmEHcOc0Sys

Thumbs up to that guy for telling it like it is.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-10-28 01:17:04 UTC
http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-protesters-rally-around-wounded-veteran-135137776.html

Quote:
On Tuesday, an Iraq War veteran marching with Oakland demonstrators suffered a cracked skull in the chaos between officers and protesters, further raising concern among some in the movement.

Scott Olsen, a 24-year-old Marine veteran, was in critical condition Wednesday after he had been struck, said a spokesman for Highland Hospital in Oakland.

It was not clear exactly what type of object hit the veteran or who might have thrown it, though the group Iraq Veterans Against the War said it was lodged by officers.

Police Chief Howard Jordan said at a news conference that the events leading up to Olsen's injury would be investigated as vigorously as a fatal police shooting.

"It's unfortunate it happened. I wish that it didn't happen. Our goal, obviously, isn't to cause injury to anyone," the chief said.

While demonstrators in other cities have built a working relationship with police and city leaders, they wondered on Wednesday how long the good spirit would last and whether they could be next.

Will they have to face riot gear-clad officers and tear gas that their counterparts in Oakland, Calif., faced Tuesday? Or will they be handcuffed and hauled away in the middle of the night like protesters in Atlanta?

"Yes, we're afraid. Is this the night they're going to sneak in?" said activist William Buster of Occupy Wall Street, where the movement began last month to protest what they see as corporate greed.

"Is this the night they might use unreasonable force?" he asked.


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