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More Regions or a Second Server?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#81 - 2013-02-26 03:40:52 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam


Leave highsec

Don't be ignorant. Did you see your friends say that?

As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.

Haha yeah, yet- as a 2012 player, I have been more places, seen and done more things than 2003 characters that are afraid to leave highsec because of implants and SP/hr

We've had newbies hotdropping on people. You'd never see that in highsec, non-cyno-lighting aside.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
dark heartt
#82 - 2013-02-26 03:41:35 UTC
I think the OP has missed the point of Eve being in a single shard server setup and the fact that having lots of people is a good thing for Eve...

http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#83 - 2013-02-26 03:42:15 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I've roamed through vast empty pipes of highsec recently, and lowsec has some systems that are almost permanently empty.

The problem isn't the size of the universe, it's force projection.

Yeah, those ice miners are projecting their force.

Similarly for the lowsec pirates projecting force from the gate to highsec that they are camping in instalock cruisers or something.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Bluetippedflyer
Fallen Rabbits
#84 - 2013-02-26 06:09:15 UTC
ill take a new server
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#85 - 2013-02-26 06:24:02 UTC
Skeln Thargensen wrote:
It's not that it's too small, it's just that it's a little too easy to be found.

this is not necessarily a get rid of immediate local post but you know what I mean.


Local is fine, just get rid of the instance Statistical maps, have it show only what happen yesterday. Shocked

Empire, the next new world order.
cBOLTSON
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-02-26 06:24:41 UTC
I feel personally that a few more regions would be good but you would have to be very careful where and what type.

I do think the game needs a couple more regions that stem off directly from highsec (like providence type space). The type of space that is great for new guys trying to get there feet wet in nullsec. Great for low level bears to exploit for iskies too.

A place though that is lacking in moon and mineral resources but is still better than lowsec. (Low true sec providence type space)

Then I also think we need some space that is really really off the beaten track. Hard to access, really far away but potentially with great resources to exploit.

The good old days of Unreal Tournament, fragging and sniping on Facing Worlds, listening to Foregone Destruction.......
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#87 - 2013-02-26 10:03:47 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.

The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world.


The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population.


Thats irrelevant lol


Then why did you bring it up to support your argument if it's irrelevant?


The reason why the Chinese server is irrelevant, the fact it does just gives an examples of how a second server might work. Have we lost the sandbox greatness that everbody is harping on about because of the chinese server was made? No.
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#88 - 2013-02-26 10:04:58 UTC
dark heartt wrote:
I think the OP has missed the point of Eve being in a single shard server setup and the fact that having lots of people is a good thing for Eve...


So if we hit 70k players? 80k players? You dont think any expansion of space is needed?
Josh Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2013-02-26 14:10:22 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
No.

Your region is too populated .
Explore lonely regions in low sec and null.
Its quite dead there


I don't have a region lol..... I play everywhere and assure you nowhere is dead in low-sec, and the few places that are dead in null are dead for a reason, and inaccessible without the very blob many of us are trying to avoid.


Have a look around Devoid/Derelik. Pretty dead round there, especially Devoid.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#90 - 2013-02-26 14:16:23 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
could there even be the possibility of a second server?
No.


Why?


Once upon a time, Conan was asked: "What is good in life?"

He had a few things to say about "crushing enemies" and "lamentation of the women", but his answers didn't include "another server" -- and neither does CCP's.

Hope that helps. P

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#91 - 2013-02-26 14:51:02 UTC
New server - no.

More systems - yes please.

Add new low sec regions between each of the four main empires to turn each into a high sec island. (as long as there's plenty of entry / exit points so that people just can't camp a main pipeline all day).
This would drag some of the volume out of Jita and stimulate the other market hubs, give local manufacturers a boost, break up the monotony of being able to fly almost anywhere in high sec afk, faction warfare more systems to contest....and a reason for people to at least visit low sec again.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#92 - 2013-02-26 16:14:55 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
dark heartt wrote:
I think the OP has missed the point of Eve being in a single shard server setup and the fact that having lots of people is a good thing for Eve...


So if we hit 70k players? 80k players? You dont think any expansion of space is needed?


Let's talk when we're seeing Sunday evenings regularly hit 100k

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#93 - 2013-02-26 16:26:26 UTC
You want nul like income without the blob, try a wormhole. Want a New region, try a wormhole.

There is already a perfectly functional mechanic that would allow the addition of New systems without any map changes, just increase the number of available wormhole systems. Then increase the number of wormhole connections to hi, low, and nul space.

As for hi sec being crowded, move out of caldari space. There are ample regions, with decent agents, stations, etc in high sec that are devoid of people.
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
#94 - 2013-02-26 16:37:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Buhhdust Princess
I'd say that some regions of lowsec are completely unused because of where theyre placed. It's completely pointless half of it. No connections for logistical things etc. Why not just make some more highsec routes cut through to deeper lowsec? and maybe make the regions that are less contested and wanted, more contested by adding things like more neodymium/platinum moons for the lowsec alliances to fight over.

Maybe a way of making isk for people who arent alligned to FW? Like a hub that someone can take, and then give to whichever faction they like (Including pirate factions). This might encourage people to go to places like Derelik etc more often as lowsec roamers.

Ninjaedit: Also some more low->0.0 entrance systems! always good for both parties!
TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#95 - 2013-02-26 16:56:33 UTC
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fazeley
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#96 - 2013-02-26 17:21:21 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
No second server. Ever.

Make Eve bigger however? Hell yes. More diverse areas of space, Maybe patches of nullsec ONLY accessible by WH, islands of hisec with some nice resources or missions, right in the middle of a big area of lowsec. Lowsec that is actually interesting.

Small patches of nullsec that are NOT accessible to capitals jumping from any other null or lowsec space. Space that has anomolies like that big explosive cloud and stuff like that. Make it big and interesting.


I quite agree - reconfigure the space that is already there. I'd love to see the four high-sec empires existing as islands in low / 0.0 sec. Would be cool if there was a mechanic to raise / lower sec status of systems.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2013-02-26 17:30:09 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I've roamed through vast empty pipes of highsec recently, and lowsec has some systems that are almost permanently empty.

The problem isn't the size of the universe, it's force projection.


This this this, a thousand times this. The Eve universe is physically large enough, it's just so easy to move around in, it feels like your backyard. My alliance lives at the ass end of Tenerifis - it's something like 50 jumps to highsec, yet I can get there in 10 minutes with a carrier and a couple of alts.

If you combined making people work to hold their space (farms and fields ideas) with a nerf to force projection, you'd see a lot more people in null simply because it would feel larger, so they would feel like there was room for them to start something of their own and expand. That expansion of the population would, in turn, contribute to the feeling of expanded space because it would become harder .to roam for 30 jumps unmolested by the locals - and so it goes.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2013-02-26 17:34:17 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.

The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world.


The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population.


Thats irrelevant lol


Then why did you bring it up to support your argument if it's irrelevant?


The reason why the Chinese server is irrelevant, the fact it does just gives an examples of how a second server might work. Have we lost the sandbox greatness that everbody is harping on about because of the chinese server was made? No.


But it's existence is irrelevant to your argument - you might as well say, oh well we have Sisi so that's a perfect example of why we can have another server. Except it's not. The Chinese server doesn't talk to TQ, they have completely separate markets, PvP, databases, power blocs, etc. All you would do is dilute the player base with that model, and by extension, reduce the single quality that separates Eve from games like Wow - that my actions can, in theory, impact EVERYONE that plays this game. No other game that I know of can make that claim. If you kill that, you kill what makes Eve unique.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2013-02-26 17:36:53 UTC
No to a second server
Yes to more space

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Hernan Johuihen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#100 - 2013-02-26 17:52:05 UTC
lmao pls nooooo!