EVE General Discussion

Can you speak mandarin?

Sounds like those Nexon blokes managed to sell a cash-cow/control scheme similar to the one running on Serenity (China) in exchange for translating the client.

Can certainly understand why people are getting annoyed by this if true .. adding middle men has never resulted in anything but price increases and often even service degradation.

Oh yes, you can buy PLEXex from many authorized places! :) (Can't believe the gall on CCP for telling you guys it can only be done via Nexon points)

I use http://www.evetimecode.com/ myself. You can buy as many as you like, and they cost $34.95 (which gives you 2x 30day PLEXes). In euro's that's even cheaper than the monthly 15 euro subscription fee.

You can also buy them here: https://www.deepspacesupply.com/60_day_gtc.html


EDIT: You buy gamescodes, which you can then convert, in-game, to 2x 30 day PLEXes.

How the hell is the average Japanese space geek supposed to get them from alternate sources if/when he neither speaks nor understands English?

Personally love the way it is done as it really increases my security, but it is hardly helpful for the linguistically challenged. We (read: our Japanese brothers) need an option that either speaks the tongue or offers an alternate method of verification (cue Chribba with :awesomesauce: webpage w. ingame verification or something )

I hope you _DO_ realize that ¥3000 price is rather 'extreme', and the correct one would be about ¥1000?

The 20% or so VAT that Europe gets hit with is already a huge problem... And the above isn't event a 'VAT' based surcharge, it's a "they're Japanese" premium on the subscription.


How good and holy they are never was the issue, rather it is that you are forcing all Japanese players to go through a 3rd party.

Which isn't an issue either.

CCP sets the price, Nexon handles the billing and likely Japanese customer support that pertains to it. Many language issues go away at that point.

In return they have a very large and effective marketing and distribution tool at their disposal that is well known in that part of the world.

So yes, Japanese people wanting to purchase a subscription will pay CCP through a portal that they can actually communicate with effectively. GTC buyers should still be able to purchase from any authorized source in addition. If the pricing structure is similar (and we have no reason to believe it will not), it sounds like a reasonable arrangement.

If I were playing a Japanese game I'd personally rather a native English speaking portal handle my account information and any related customer service calls, simply because when my money is involved I don't want anything lost in the translation at either end.

Well I guess you're right. Personally, I have never had any bad experiences with Nexon (although I do hear many stories about their bad customer support) so as long as their price is at a reasonable level, it's no problem with me. I guess I just have to wait until CCP or Nexon announces the actual price.


I totally agree. If paying via Nexon was provided as just an option mainly for new coming Japanese players, it wouldn't have been that much of a problem. In fact, 99% (I guess) of the Japanese community were expecting that it will be done that way. Words like "Payment via Nexon will be done by buying Nexon points and obtaining PLEX using your point so you will need a Nexon ID in that case. How ever, existing players EVE IDs will still be managed by CCP and not Nexon ( ... from a player conference report ( http://www.4gamer.net/games/004/G000412/20111016008/ it's all in Japanese I'm afraid) by 4gamer, one of Japans largest gaming sites).", gave most of us the impression that Nexon point payments were just something optional (and observing the sentences, it's quite obvious that 4gamer had the same impression too). It turned out that we were being too optimistic. CCP didn't lie, just not specific enough, intentionally or not. "EVE IDs will still be managed by CCP and not Nexon. However, CCP will not accept subscriptions from you. You must sign up for a Nexon ID, buy Nexon points and get your PLEX. " would have been better.



I see. Got it.


In fact I wasn't expecting a blue to respond to this post. Thanks for the information. The \3,000 is yes, extremely high but as I said in OP, please be aware that it's a price tag most Japanese will naturally expect from a Korean MMO publisher so you can't blame us if we expect the same from Nexon. I hope we can hear more specific numbers soon. Thanks again for the info.



edit @Rakshasa Taisab : How did you manage to make the "Yen mark" appear ? o.O

If those outfits bring miniskirts to EVE, then F*** yea, lets see them.

Now we all can be fairies in EVE, all we need now are ponies.

LOL 3000yen? too expensive. CCP should check rate JPY=USD??? crazy CCP
i do not want to pay cash for EVE ONLINE over 14.99USD per month!!

The whole point is to get more Japanese on board (localizedclient) so an error in judgement to partner with an untrusted (by target demographic) company to handle things and depending on what they end up charging the whole thing might just fizzle or even backfire as existing Japanese players say their goodbyes.

Uncle Google tells me that $15 is about ¥1200, so if final price exceeds ¥1500 I'd say that the customers are being gouged seeing as they are not European socialists (like me) who are happy, happy, happy to pay extra for the greater good.

It is a good thing this came along, since CCP caved on just about all major points we space-nerds have nothing to rage about which is never a good thing .. so good on you Japan for "potentially" getting shafted so that we can RAAAAAGE!


Google is thine friend.

When you need symbols and such, search for alt codes ..

For Yen the alt code is 0165, so holding ALT while typing 0165 gives you: ¥ ... Tada!