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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#21 - 2013-02-25 10:31:10 UTC
Rolstra wrote:
So when I land in the Incursion constellation should I go to the system in the journal to find a fleet? or should I stop before I get to the constellation. I guess what I am asking is, who protects me from the rats once I get there but before I get into fleet.

Incursion rats in high sec are only in the sites and the roid belts, so if you don't warp to iether of those celestials you will be fine. And when you are within a few minutes of the Incursion systems you can start looking for fleet invites, the FC that invites you will tell you where to meet up.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Rocanegra
Recios Industrial Wing
#22 - 2013-02-25 11:51:09 UTC
Hi there,

thank you goldiiee for this thread, I've been wanting to do incursions since they were created, and recently I've decided to try them... with no luck at the moment Ugh

I'm flying an armor Mega Navy, following TDF's fitting doctrines, and though I've not yet T2 guns (until this weekend), I think i've a pretty solid fit, and some people in TDF's channel told me so.

The problem I see coming is that I'm not a native english-speaker (I'm spanish), I can read and write english, but my speak/hearing experience is very poor, does that mean that I won't be able to understand FC? is that really important?

I'm sure I'll do my best to grow and improve in any fleet that would accept me, but I don't want to be "the noob" that gets kicked off the fleet just for not understanding spoken english Shocked

Flota española de incursiones Canal y Mailing List: [u]IncursionES[/u] http://incursion.es http://grajosflight.blogspot.com
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#23 - 2013-02-25 12:38:57 UTC
Rocanegra wrote:
Hi there,

thank you goldiiee for this thread, I've been wanting to do incursions since they were created, and recently I've decided to try them... with no luck at the moment Ugh

I'm flying an armor Mega Navy, following TDF's fitting doctrines, and though I've not yet T2 guns (until this weekend), I think i've a pretty solid fit, and some people in TDF's channel told me so.

The problem I see coming is that I'm not a native english-speaker (I'm spanish), I can read and write english, but my speak/hearing experience is very poor, does that mean that I won't be able to understand FC? is that really important?

I'm sure I'll do my best to grow and improve in any fleet that would accept me, but I don't want to be "the noob" that gets kicked off the fleet just for not understanding spoken english Shocked

I am unaware of any Spanish speaking fleet, that’s not to say they don’t exist; I just don’t know where to send you for that. Personally my Spanish is so bad I would be afraid to try and translate important commands.

Most fleet functions can be done through following tags (assigned targets decided by the FC) and Broadcasts; align to, warp to, request for shield/Armour and capacitor. Still, a limited understanding of English is very important for your safety.

I fly with a pretty diverse community but they do communicate on comms in English but I will ask how many of our members can speak Spanish; I am hoping that someone can help with your need for a Spanish speaking or at least a translating FC.

Your English Writing skills are very good from reading your post, much better than my Spanish is.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Rocanegra
Recios Industrial Wing
#24 - 2013-02-25 12:58:18 UTC
goldiiee wrote:
Rocanegra wrote:
Hi there,

thank you goldiiee for this thread, I've been wanting to do incursions since they were created, and recently I've decided to try them... with no luck at the moment Ugh

I'm flying an armor Mega Navy, following TDF's fitting doctrines, and though I've not yet T2 guns (until this weekend), I think i've a pretty solid fit, and some people in TDF's channel told me so.

The problem I see coming is that I'm not a native english-speaker (I'm spanish), I can read and write english, but my speak/hearing experience is very poor, does that mean that I won't be able to understand FC? is that really important?

I'm sure I'll do my best to grow and improve in any fleet that would accept me, but I don't want to be "the noob" that gets kicked off the fleet just for not understanding spoken english Shocked

I am unaware of any Spanish speaking fleet, that’s not to say they don’t exist; I just don’t know where to send you for that. Personally my Spanish is so bad I would be afraid to try and translate important commands.

Most fleet functions can be done through following tags (assigned targets decided by the FC) and Broadcasts; align to, warp to, request for shield/Armour and capacitor. Still, a limited understanding of English is very important for your safety.

I fly with a pretty diverse community but they do communicate on comms in English but I will ask how many of our members can speak Spanish; I am hoping that someone can help with your need for a Spanish speaking or at least a translating FC.

Your English Writing skills are very good from reading your post, much better than my Spanish is.


Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

First of all, I'd like to try in english speaking fleets, as I think I've lost use of english language, and I think I'll get used to it quickly. I tried to look for spanish-speaking fleets and it was impossible some months ago, even I tried to FC spanish people, but as they disbanded, seemed impossible to form even a small fleet.

I'll keep trying to get a place inside armor fleets, I think it's a matter of time (and luck), and whenever I get confortable with my language skills, and get the money for a Vindicator, I'll make a move, learn how to FC and use a good Logistic ship. Maybe with time I'll find spanish-speaking people, but english won't hurt me either :)

Would you recommend me any entry-friendly armor fleet in particular? I'll stick to TDF's channel meanwhile.

Flota española de incursiones Canal y Mailing List: [u]IncursionES[/u] http://incursion.es http://grajosflight.blogspot.com
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#25 - 2013-02-25 13:12:46 UTC
Rocanegra wrote:
goldiiee wrote:
Rocanegra wrote:
Hi there,

thank you goldiiee for this thread, I've been wanting to do incursions since they were created, and recently I've decided to try them... with no luck at the moment Ugh

I'm flying an armor Mega Navy, following TDF's fitting doctrines, and though I've not yet T2 guns (until this weekend), I think i've a pretty solid fit, and some people in TDF's channel told me so.

The problem I see coming is that I'm not a native english-speaker (I'm spanish), I can read and write english, but my speak/hearing experience is very poor, does that mean that I won't be able to understand FC? is that really important?

I'm sure I'll do my best to grow and improve in any fleet that would accept me, but I don't want to be "the noob" that gets kicked off the fleet just for not understanding spoken english Shocked

I am unaware of any Spanish speaking fleet, that’s not to say they don’t exist; I just don’t know where to send you for that. Personally my Spanish is so bad I would be afraid to try and translate important commands.

Most fleet functions can be done through following tags (assigned targets decided by the FC) and Broadcasts; align to, warp to, request for shield/Armour and capacitor. Still, a limited understanding of English is very important for your safety.

I fly with a pretty diverse community but they do communicate on comms in English but I will ask how many of our members can speak Spanish; I am hoping that someone can help with your need for a Spanish speaking or at least a translating FC.

Your English Writing skills are very good from reading your post, much better than my Spanish is.


Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

First of all, I'd like to try in english speaking fleets, as I think I've lost use of english language, and I think I'll get used to it quickly. I tried to look for spanish-speaking fleets and it was impossible some months ago, even I tried to FC spanish people, but as they disbanded, seemed impossible to form even a small fleet.

I'll keep trying to get a place inside armor fleets, I think it's a matter of time (and luck), and whenever I get confortable with my language skills, and get the money for a Vindicator, I'll make a move, learn how to FC and use a good Logistic ship. Maybe with time I'll find spanish-speaking people, but english won't hurt me either :)

Would you recommend me any entry-friendly armor fleet in particular? I'll stick to TDF's channel meanwhile.

I would say get a message to DarthNefarius, he will have the best answers concerning Armour fleets and what he can do for you.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Rocanegra
Recios Industrial Wing
#26 - 2013-02-25 14:53:51 UTC
goldiiee wrote:
...
I would say get a message to DarthNefarius, he will have the best answers concerning Armour fleets and what he can do for you.


Ok thank you very much, I'll join both shield and armor channels, and I'll try to get up tu date, so once I get a fleet to join in, I'll switch fits accordingly.

As far as I've seen, there're at least 4 shield communities, and I only know one single armor channel, does it means shields are better or more popular? I don't mind changing my tank, as far as I can use my future Vindicator ;)

Flota española de incursiones Canal y Mailing List: [u]IncursionES[/u] http://incursion.es http://grajosflight.blogspot.com
Sentenced 1989
#27 - 2013-02-25 15:05:04 UTC
Rocanegra wrote:

I don't mind changing my tank, as far as I can use my future Vindicator ;)

what about rigs?

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Rocanegra
Recios Industrial Wing
#28 - 2013-02-25 15:11:59 UTC
Sentenced 1989 wrote:
Rocanegra wrote:

I don't mind changing my tank, as far as I can use my future Vindicator ;)

what about rigs?

I'm sorry, rigs + tank, I mean :)

What I wanted to say is that what I really want is run incursions, and I don't mind to change my fittings, as far as all training invested in my career is not wasted, I could fly a T2 / Faction Machariel too, but I prefer the slim and elegant lines of the Megathron/MNI/Vindicator Hull :)

Flota española de incursiones Canal y Mailing List: [u]IncursionES[/u] http://incursion.es http://grajosflight.blogspot.com
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#29 - 2013-02-25 16:01:13 UTC
Rocanegra wrote:
Sentenced 1989 wrote:
Rocanegra wrote:

I don't mind changing my tank, as far as I can use my future Vindicator ;)

what about rigs?

I'm sorry, rigs + tank, I mean :)

What I wanted to say is that what I really want is run incursions, and I don't mind to change my fittings, as far as all training invested in my career is not wasted, I could fly a T2 / Faction Machariel too, but I prefer the slim and elegant lines of the Megathron/MNI/Vindicator Hull :)

Sorry I was called away for work so it took awhile to get back to your message, Shield and Armour use rigs for tank reinforcement, so you would need a different rigs depending on what community you fly with. But yes I am sure DarthNefarius, myself or for that matter any incursions runner I know would be more than happy to help you get the fit right and ready.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Rocanegra
Recios Industrial Wing
#30 - 2013-02-26 08:20:12 UTC
goldiiee wrote:
...
Sorry I was called away for work so it took awhile to get back to your message, Shield and Armour use rigs for tank reinforcement, so you would need a different rigs depending on what community you fly with. But yes I am sure DarthNefarius, myself or for that matter any incursions runner I know would be more than happy to help you get the fit right and ready.


I tried to join one of TDF's fleet yesterday, but I'd to leave fleet, I was on waiting list and I didn't have enough time waiting till I could have an empty slot. Anyway I think I could understand some basic rules and that fleet's fit requirements.

I'll have to wait 9 more days till T2 large guns, but I'm very optimistic after having a talk with the fleet's FC (thanks Diego!), now I'm more anxious than before to start incursions :)

Flota española de incursiones Canal y Mailing List: [u]IncursionES[/u] http://incursion.es http://grajosflight.blogspot.com
Steve BHD
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-02-26 18:58:11 UTC
Are there any fleets that I can join right now?

I'm heading to the incursion in noli right now.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#32 - 2013-02-26 19:35:07 UTC
Steve BHD wrote:
Are there any fleets that I can join right now?

I'm heading to the incursion in noli right now.

I can only see a few of the communities chats, but of the three I can see, all of them are running right now. Refer to the OP and log into the community individual chats and let them know your 'On your way' and see who needs the ship your flying.

time: 26/02/13 19.34

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#33 - 2013-02-26 21:41:21 UTC
I guess I'm blind. What are the chat channel names for these groups?

Is there any starter to advanced armor fleets?

Ive done like 4 incursion sites with mixed results (bad FC, bad fleet makeup) all right after they were introduced. Would like to get back into them, but having issues figuring out how an armor tanker breaks in.

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#34 - 2013-02-26 21:54:39 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I guess I'm blind. What are the chat channel names for these groups?

Is there any starter to advanced armor fleets?

Ive done like 4 incursion sites with mixed results (bad FC, bad fleet makeup) all right after they were introduced. Would like to get back into them, but having issues figuring out how an armor tanker breaks in.

For armor fleets join 'The Ditanian Fleet' channel and ask there for more info. Assuming you fly armor, shield would be a few different channels but armor is condensed to TDF.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Makavelia
National Industries
#35 - 2013-02-27 00:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Makavelia
I have BS L5 and T2 torps, Is their no possible way to make a fleet issue typhoon work for incurison?. I'd like to put those skills to some use but they seem have very little place in eve anymore.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#36 - 2013-02-27 00:22:33 UTC
Makavelia wrote:
I have BS L5 and T2 torps, Is their no possible way to make a fleet issue typhoon work for incurison?. I'd like to put those skills to some use but they seem have very little place in eve anymore.

Um, I have never seen a torp boat in an Incursions fleet. So I feel somewhat out of my depth as i also don't fly one. Cursory fittings (EVEHQ Fitting tool) tells me they have a rather limited range.

Considering most fleet doctrines are trying to kill everything from spawn (60km to 140km) before it gets into orbiting range, and then leave it to the autocannos, blasterboats, and drone swarm when it get to close to hit, so I don’t know where your Torps would be better than existing doctrines . Also the common complaint I hear about launchers VS. Turrets are the travel time delay inherent in launcher weapon systems, this causes a loss of applied DPS, especially in contested sites.

Unfortunately that’s all I can tell you, I will ask around and see if anyone has thought of a use for Torps and post back here if I find something.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Makavelia
National Industries
#37 - 2013-02-27 00:49:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Makavelia
goldiiee wrote:
Makavelia wrote:
I have BS L5 and T2 torps, Is their no possible way to make a fleet issue typhoon work for incurison?. I'd like to put those skills to some use but they seem have very little place in eve anymore.

Um, I have never seen a torp boat in an Incursions fleet. So I feel somewhat out of my depth as i also don't fly one. Cursory fittings (EVEHQ Fitting tool) tells me they have a rather limited range.

Considering most fleet doctrines are trying to kill everything from spawn (60km to 140km) before it gets into orbiting range, and then leave it to the autocannos, blasterboats, and drone swarm when it get to close to hit, so I don’t know where your Torps would be better than existing doctrines . Also the common complaint I hear about launchers VS. Turrets are the travel time delay inherent in launcher weapon systems, this causes a loss of applied DPS, especially in contested sites.

Unfortunately that’s all I can tell you, I will ask around and see if anyone has thought of a use for Torps and post back here if I find something.


The only thing i thought ''could'' be usefull was as a dedicated BS spanker. My phoon for example with heavy drones (do heavy drones get bad agro, or to slow?) puts out around 1400 dps. With the launcher rigs and T2 torps it can just reach 20km with missile L4 for range skills. That's very limited and the buffer also suffers.. Maybe Tp's can make it osmewhat usefull on the cruisers too.. but i guess it would only put out 1/4 the dps on them? if that.

I guess i answer my own questions ;[.. hope they hurry up and fix the typhoon as i miss using it.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#38 - 2013-02-27 01:16:26 UTC
Makavelia wrote:


The only thing i thought ''could'' be usefull was as a dedicated BS spanker. My phoon for example with heavy drones (do heavy drones get bad agro, or to slow?) puts out around 1400 dps. With the launcher rigs and T2 torps it can just reach 20km with missile L4 for range skills. That's very limited and the buffer also suffers.. Maybe Tp's can make it osmewhat usefull on the cruisers too.. but i guess it would only put out 1/4 the dps on them? if that.

I guess i answer my own questions ;[.. hope they hurry up and fix the typhoon as i miss using it.

Yeah unfortunately heavy drones would become space junk in a matter of seconds, I use warriors (Light small and fast) and it’s common for me to put out 5 and get back 3 ½ :) the other thing you will find is armour fleets have been in business for well over a year so their doctrine is pretty much set in stone, blaster boats for the close stuff, rails and arties for the long stuff and autocannons for everything in between.

Also, I have seen a big push for MWD doctrines in armour, I haven’t participated in one of these fleets but I have contested them (I fly shields) and they get out to spawn points and blast Rats at point blank range, to great effect.

TP’s are good but unfortunately they are frowned upon as they not only benefit your fleet, they also benefit the opposing fleet in contests, so when you really needed the blown up sig to hit, you wouldn’t be able to use it as would benefit the opposing team as much as yours.

But get in touch with ‘The Ditanian Fleet’ guys and see what they say, DarthNefarius, is a very active forum reader and he helps a lot of people get a foothold in armour.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Charadrass
Angry Germans
#39 - 2013-02-27 10:07:53 UTC
Every Incursion starter should choose carefully which community he would join, because the dramalama is running around.

und für alle deutschsprachigen Incursionflieger gibt es den Channel: din-flotten.
Karig'Ano Keikira
Tax Cheaters
#40 - 2013-02-27 12:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Karig'Ano Keikira
Anyone uses tengus in incursions these days? Or are they pretty much obsolete?