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does anyone actually ever fight in PvP?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-25 21:48:53 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
FW is actually probably more your bag if you're out there solo, the objectives are size-category-locked so you have some approximation of a "fair fight" in most engagements, and there are a fuckload of us in the contested areas.


If you want solo....


RvB honours 1v1.

RvB has a FFA system where everybody must be solo.

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Niveuss Nye
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-02-25 23:57:32 UTC
Red versus Blue does sound like a blast and I have heard they also have a no BS policy about entering or leaving.

But, Faction War has one or two advantages:

One is Loyalty Points. This can provide an income for you while you get blown up a lot learning. Second is, Faction War you see everything. It is fun as heck with cool people.

Either way is fun.
dark heartt
#23 - 2013-02-26 01:14:02 UTC  |  Edited by: dark heartt
Cameron Zero wrote:
We PVP all day, every day in RvB. Of course, some people will say what we do isn't "real" PVP, but ships are exploding, and that's all that matters.

Good luck to you!

o7


If you want to solo you can go to the FFA system and solo in Nomaa with RvB. It's pretty good fun and I pretty much learned to PVP there.

The main issue with faction warfare that I had was the loss of standings. If thats not a problem for you then go to FW as you can make money with it too. If, like me, you can't afford to take a faction standings hit, then go to RvB.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-02-26 12:16:04 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
FW is actually probably more your bag if you're out there solo, the objectives are size-category-locked so you have some approximation of a "fair fight" in most engagements, and there are a fuckload of us in the contested areas.


this. you can pretty much control the engagement in novice plexes and people will tend to fight you if they've been sitting on that button for 9 minutes. it's a great way to get a lot of solo same class gf's in cheap ships.

the people in the npc corp militias don't tend to be very co-operative though it's true.

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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-02-26 13:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
J'Poll wrote:


RvB honours 1v1.

RvB has a FFA system where everybody must be solo.


FFA system?

Edit: The penny dropped just as I clicked post.
"Free for all". Is that Nooma?
Is it only 1v1 there or fleets as well?

Edit of my edit: Just found this: http://rvbeve.com/forums/index.php/topic/719-free-for-all-system-nomaa-new-beginnings/

So no need for reply. Thanks.

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cratais
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-02-26 17:42:26 UTC
yes nomaas the FFA system and no fleets are not allowed to fight in there so its all 1v1

all our fleet fights take place in either poinen or josemato sometimes obanan
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-02-27 08:17:10 UTC
A lot of players won't engage even when they have the superior force in case it is a bait trap. They're worried that your nooby ships are simply there to hold them for 30 seconds while your friends show up.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#28 - 2013-02-27 15:05:39 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

RvB honours 1v1.

RvB has a FFA system where everybody must be solo.


While I'm sure that's true, 1v1 isn't actually any fun whatsoever (or, rather, 'dueling' misses the point of an MMO in a fairly dire way, if I wanted that I'd be playing Soul Calibur... and I do, SC is ******* awesome, but I don't know why I'd log into a 50k+-player game to do it) and I'm rather a fan of the structure that objectives lend to engagements. Having some sort of real, measurable goal to fight over always makes my life more fun.

Basically, FW tends to be the better system for fast and loose PvP. You're in the same general ship category, so you've always got a legit shot at victory, but catching people unawares, making better tactical calls on the fly, and building flexible or for small group are still major parts of the game so it's not "fair" as such. Enforced 'fairness', in excess, usually leads to homogeneity.

Not that I'm talking RvB (or its PvE counterpart Eve University) down, they're chill dudes playing the way they want to play and that's what the sandbox is for. I'm just pointing out that most Eve pvp is significantly... wilder and more free-form even in restricted context. And also more spite-based, I guess. Spite's an important part of every balanced breakfast.
Gitanmaxx
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-02-27 15:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Gitanmaxx
J'Poll wrote:
Lost Greybeard wrote:
FW is actually probably more your bag if you're out there solo, the objectives are size-category-locked so you have some approximation of a "fair fight" in most engagements, and there are a fuckload of us in the contested areas.


If you want solo....


RvB honours 1v1.

RvB has a FFA system where everybody must be solo.



I don't want solo fights is the thing, i'm not sure where that impression came from.

that's just the only time anyone would fight is when i was alone and they had a fancy pirate faction ship that i had no hope against. I want to join in groups who actually do something which i couldn't find anywhere in FW.

not having much of a clue what we were doing the cool group of other FW noobs I ganged up with seemed infinitely more willing to actually do something, be organized, and engage enemies than every other person in the entire militia.
M'pact
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-02-27 16:12:04 UTC
As others have said, you'll get much better results in Faction Warfare if you join a player-owned corporation. They tend to have a focus of some sort that makes things more interesting.

One of my other characters was in Minmatar FW, and they had a pretty good track record of making sure there was at least one fleet up on Fleet Finder every time I was logged in. I still did a lot of solo plexing around my HQ system, but very often there was a fleet option if I wanted it.

I highly recommend FW, as long as you join a player corp. The NPC corps suck.

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Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-02-27 16:41:31 UTC
Gitanmaxx wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Lost Greybeard wrote:
FW is actually probably more your bag if you're out there solo, the objectives are size-category-locked so you have some approximation of a "fair fight" in most engagements, and there are a fuckload of us in the contested areas.


If you want solo....


RvB honours 1v1.

RvB has a FFA system where everybody must be solo.



I don't want solo fights is the thing, i'm not sure where that impression came from.

that's just the only time anyone would fight is when i was alone and they had a fancy pirate faction ship that i had no hope against. I want to join in groups who actually do something which i couldn't find anywhere in FW.

not having much of a clue what we were doing the cool group of other FW noobs I ganged up with seemed infinitely more willing to actually do something, be organized, and engage enemies than every other person in the entire militia.


Again....RvB.

They have stuff ranging from solo to fleets. And most of the time both fleet FCs are in contact with each other to keep fights fair and fun.

Join the following channels in game:

R-v-b : the RvB public channel. Lots of helpful guys there.

RvB Ganked : Open to everyone RvB roams through nullsec. Always fun and a great way to meet RvB and see if you like them.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Melissa Cullin
Milligan Interstellar Industry and Trade Co.
#32 - 2013-03-01 02:59:21 UTC
And it seems RvB has captured the thread. Not that I can complain since you guys bring the best PvP in EVE I've seen ;)

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Kezn Tzestu
Jonas Virpio Corporation
#33 - 2013-03-01 12:17:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kezn Tzestu
FW is so much more fun when you have a decent and friendly FW focused corp, dont join corps that do "a little of everything" including FW. by having a corp you dont need the random peoples in millitia chat, you have a corp and alliance chat that will respond to you fairly quickly

RvB is also an option as many here has already suggested, it wasnt for me tho as i liked being solo/small gang most of the time, i did enjoy the roams and ffa but the normal gatecamping got boring fast and felt too staged personally. Also you can do your normal missions while being in rvb, just avoid going into the forge or nomaa and it shouldnt be a problem.
Gitanmaxx
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-03-01 15:45:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Gitanmaxx
haha, thanks for all the advice everyone. Now I'm torn between spending the weekend trying to find a FW corp or joining RvB. On one hand I like that in FW I can still earn some isk and it feels more goal oriented, I have been missioning for a while to save up 1 bil isk, that was my goal, now I intend to spend it all on ships for pvp until I don't suck. (i've already spent almost half of it) so the income from FW would help me last there longer. But on the other hand it feels like RvB people are less likely to care if they don't have the complete upper hand and be able to chat up the enemy after a battle for tips since the stakes aren't as great.
Jensaro Koraka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-03-01 17:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jensaro Koraka
Gitanmaxx wrote:
So thinking maybe I just need one or two to group I spent 4 hours in chat trying to find someone to tag along with but out of the 244 people in militia chat not a single person seemed to care at all about actually fighting or doing something.

I just came back to Eve. First thing I did with my new account is buy 100 merlins and have Red Frog move them near FW space. I have to go to the store in a bit, but when I get back i'll be happy to go looking for people to pew pew with you. I'm about to join the Caldari militia until I hear back from a PvP corp I applied to. I'd really rather have a partner instead of trying to solo with 100k SP.

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