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More Regions or a Second Server?
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#61 - 2013-02-25 15:57:11 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
Nova Satar wrote:
I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.

The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world.


You're missing the point of the answers. Eve is one universe, not several copies running in parallel.

And if 50,000+ people all logged into the same universe as you spread over thousands of solar systems, sometimes having as many as 10 people in the same lowsec solar system as you, seems crowded, you should try living on planet Earth. We have billions of people all sharing ONE PLANET!! It's insane!!

Or maybe you just need an excessive amount of personal space to feel safe?

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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#62 - 2013-02-25 15:57:40 UTC
as I make deliveries almost everywhere in NPC regions, I can say that there is a LOT of empty low/null sec systems.

TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2013-02-25 16:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: TheBlueMonkey
Nova Satar wrote:
I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.


Two shards are now one shard.

I need a little thumbs up emoticon thingy.

Also, you can log into the Chinese server, you just need to know how
Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#64 - 2013-02-25 16:27:35 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.

The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world.


The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population.


Thats irrelevant lol
Gibbah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-02-25 16:45:04 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
Why?


Single-shard game is one of the greatest things Eve has going for it. Second (or more) servers would just dilute the playerbase and make everything less interesting.


Agreed, but eventually it could be exactly the same as it is now, but across two servers? What i'm saying is, if numbers continue to grow and TQ is kept as is, it's surely going to reach a point where something needs to happen.

Also, what would peoples thoughts be on more regions, and i don;t mean one more fw region like before, what if the universe doubled in size??


If the playerbase grow substantially I believe CCP would add more regions rather then adding servers. They done it before (Drone regions) so why not again?

I wouldn't mind doubling the size of the universe. In fact I would really like to see it happen.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#66 - 2013-02-25 16:48:57 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam


Leave highsec

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Nova Satar
Pator Tech School
#67 - 2013-02-25 16:55:55 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam


Leave highsec


Don't be ignorant. Did you see your friends say that?

As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-02-25 17:02:38 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:

As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.



There's your problem, kinda sounds like "I can't do x because excuse y" territory
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#69 - 2013-02-25 17:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: No More Heroes
Nova Satar wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam


Leave highsec


Don't be ignorant. Did you see your friends say that?

As a 2012 player this topic really doesn't mean anything to you.


Haha yeah, yet- as a 2012 player, I have been more places, seen and done more things than 2003 characters that are afraid to leave highsec because of implants and SP/hr

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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
#70 - 2013-02-25 18:34:18 UTC
Maybe stargate connections need to be remade, different routes laid, maybe some more connections into lower populated zones instead of one or two bottlenecks.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2013-02-25 18:36:54 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
I guess from all the single shard replies i should clarify, i wouldn't see it has a second server that people can just switch between and log onto whichever they prefer. You'd either be on one or another, and that's that. It's still a single shard and sandbox style game, but it just fixes what i believe is a population problem.

The same way we can't log onto the Chinese Server, this doesn't take away from "what makes eve great" so why would a second server for the 1st world.


The Chinese server exists because of politics and real life laws, not because of anything to do with the game population.


Thats irrelevant lol


Then why did you bring it up to support your argument if it's irrelevant?

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Karig'Ano Keikira
Tax Cheaters
#72 - 2013-02-25 19:28:37 UTC
Does EVE need more systems? Not sure, perhaps
Does it need more diversity? Hell yeah, imo problem atm is that pretty much each (especially 0.0) system is identical to all other 0.0 systems in the region - sure you have bit better or bit worse rats depending on sec between 0.0 and -1.0, but that's it, EVE needs something to differentiate the systems (and this is doubly true for wh-space - it really really needs something other then ton of identical sleeper sites)
Also I think that one of problems that makes EVE 'feel small' is instant travel - when alliance can project their fleet at massive distances with relative ease, it makes space feel small no matter the actual size.
As for new server, well... I can see the motivation, especially for newer players, but EVE is built around idea of single universe, so nah, I don't like it
Clara Stewart
Stewart Collections
#73 - 2013-02-25 22:57:00 UTC
Actualy I wouldnt mind a new server as I feel Tq has become stale.
Manafacturing and industry are over populated and saturated the market is overloaded with every item nothing is rare or hard to get this includes deadspace/faction.
There is to much isk ingame and the big t2 bpo screw up.

Eve must have been awesome in the first 3 years even if you never had half of what we do now.
gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
#74 - 2013-02-25 23:19:48 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
No second server. Ever.

Make Eve bigger however? Hell yes. More diverse areas of space, Maybe patches of nullsec ONLY accessible by WH, islands of hisec with some nice resources or missions, right in the middle of a big area of lowsec. Lowsec that is actually interesting.

Small patches of nullsec that are NOT accessible to capitals jumping from any other null or lowsec space. Space that has anomolies like that big explosive cloud and stuff like that. Make it big and interesting.



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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-02-25 23:27:31 UTC
Behold, the only thread suggesting that EVE actually feels too crowded.

EVE is not crowded at all.

More than half of the Hi-sec population is in a small group of systems scattered between the 4 Empires.

Low sec is system after system of less than 10 people in local.

Null sec has a pattern of being well spread out in some areas and absolutely abandoned in others.

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#76 - 2013-02-25 23:35:23 UTC
Should be shrinking it instead. Pack everyone in like wild ******* animals, then you'll get some emergent content.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2013-02-26 00:10:35 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
There must be others like me who feel that EVE just doesn't feel like it used to. No empty space to explore or quiet hunting lands to roam, it doesnt feel BIG anymore and i think a game set in space probably should.... It's rare to find any lowsec areas with less than 10 people every other system and empire is just a big mess. Null has some space sure, but you can't get to it without having to go through some massively congested areas so that argument is non exsistant.

I'd be surprised if those who remember the servers at 35,000 max would say it's better now at 60,000...

The question is, could extra regions help this, or could there even be the possibility of a second server?

Edit: Snipped foul language; please don't use profanity, it's against the rules. ISD Suvetar


It's difficult enough sometimes to find pvp now without shards.

And surprised as you may be, i find it better now than it was before, and look forward to 100k online. There's plenty of room in eve as is to hold 250k folks online at the same time. It might even force/enable more trade hubs!?!?!?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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  • Qolde
Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
#78 - 2013-02-26 00:25:31 UTC
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:
Maybe stargate connections need to be remade, different routes laid, maybe some more connections into lower populated zones instead of one or two bottlenecks.


This could be cool.

The problem however is not that there isn't enough physical space for everyone, it's that space has to be combined with a purpose to spend your time there. Give people something to harvest which they can use and it would fill up due to all the actual game experiences to be had there.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#79 - 2013-02-26 00:27:30 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
I've roamed through vast empty pipes of highsec recently, and lowsec has some systems that are almost permanently empty.

The problem isn't the size of the universe, it's force projection.

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Irya Boone
The Scope
#80 - 2013-02-26 03:27:08 UTC
Even if i swore to not respond to troll ... i will .. tonight


I came back with my fleet from a roam Lowsec To 0.0 ... guess What .. ? yeah say it , i know you know the end of my sentence

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

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