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New Eden Trade Group seeking loans (Full Collateral Available)
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Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#101 - 2013-02-25 01:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Candy Oshea wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:

What difference does it make? It only takes a few weeks to train up a decent trader toon.


Show us some character sheets then.


Refer to original post. We are not showing any information. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk, which is far better than any evidence that can be offered.

I understand we don't operate to the Market Discussion forum standard, and I know that is the source of all the greif, but it is what it is.

The one standard we are committed to is collateral for borrowed isk. Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
#102 - 2013-02-25 01:55:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Candy Oshea
Ethan Freeman wrote:

Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.


Yes if only all bonds and loans threads are as crystal clear as this,

  • Where they Don't disclose all the regular character information. (how can we tell they have the skills to trade)
  • Biomass CEO's, then claim they are "training again."
  • not disclose what/where the collateral is, and any detail asto what the values are.
  • spam in local in jita with scrub alts.
  • Get mad in PM's
  • Refuse Api's

    • You jokers re-write the book on MD bonds and loans. please tell us more about how this would be a better place with more **** filled threads like this lol.

    iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
    Ethan Freeman
    Doomheim
    #103 - 2013-02-25 02:09:28 UTC
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.


    Yes if only all bonds and loans threads are as crystal clear as this,

  • Where they Don't disclose all the regular character information. (how can we tell they have the skills to trade)
  • Biomass CEO's, then claim they are "training again."
  • not disclose what/where the collateral is, and any detail asto what the values are.
  • spam in local in jita with scrub alts.
  • Get mad in PM's
  • Refuse Api's

    • You jokers re-write the book on MD bonds and loans. please tell us more about how this would be a better place with more **** filled threads like this lol.


    We do disclose where collateral is, and values, it is impossible to do a deal without agreeing on that information.

    How is this list above at all relevant when lenders get full collateral for their isk?


    We are not rewriting the book on anything, we are sticking to what we offer and provide full security for loans. Are you arguing that full collateral isnt the best way to decrease risk in deals? Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
    Kara Books
    Deal with IT.
    #104 - 2013-02-25 02:09:41 UTC
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.


    Yes if only all bonds and loans threads are as crystal clear as this,

  • Where they Don't disclose all the regular character information. (how can we tell they have the skills to trade)
  • Biomass CEO's, then claim they are "training again."
  • not disclose what/where the collateral is, and any detail asto what the values are.
  • spam in local in jita with scrub alts.
  • Get mad in PM's
  • Refuse Api's

    • You jokers re-write the book on MD bonds and loans. please tell us more about how this would be a better place with more **** filled threads like this lol.


    Its more like 1 or 2 guys or girls that im tracking a heaping pile of alts to.
    There was a very acute and very heavy spike in Scamming when a certain familiar face showed up online on my watch list.
    Candy Oshea
    Techfree Investment Group
    #105 - 2013-02-25 02:11:50 UTC
    Ethan Freeman wrote:
    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.


    Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location.

    Perfect business plan tbh.

    iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
    Ethan Freeman
    Doomheim
    #106 - 2013-02-25 02:15:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:
    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.


    Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location.

    Perfect business plan tbh.


    If you are serious about making a deal, then we disclose all information to you. It is impossible to make a deal without disclosing where collateral is.

    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. <---New sig, I have a lot of post editing to do.
    Candy Oshea
    Techfree Investment Group
    #107 - 2013-02-25 02:25:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Candy Oshea
    Ethan Freeman wrote:
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:
    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.


    Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location.

    Perfect business plan tbh.


    If you are serious about making a deal, then we disclose all information to you. It is impossible to make a deal without disclosing where collateral is.

    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. <---New sig, I have a lot of post editing to do.


    Ok im serious about making a deal, please disclose. (here)

    iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
    Ethan Freeman
    Doomheim
    #108 - 2013-02-25 02:46:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:
    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.


    Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location.

    Perfect business plan tbh.


    If you are serious about making a deal, then we disclose all information to you. It is impossible to make a deal without disclosing where collateral is.

    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. <---New sig, I have a lot of post editing to do.


    Ok im serious about making a deal, please disclose. (here)


    Please refer to the original post where it states to contact me over evemail or in game convo to discuss deal specifics if you are interested.

    Like i said, we are sticking to what we are offering in the original post. Considering the fact that you are on Market Discussion forums seeking uncollateralized isk to fund your own market ventures, I highly doubt you are truly interested in making a deal.


    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral
    Candy Oshea
    Techfree Investment Group
    #109 - 2013-02-25 03:00:07 UTC
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral


    You know the forum actually has a signature function right? Roll

    Oh and nice of you to notice my iCandy bond threads, they sure fill quickly don't they!.

    Its amazing what a little disclosure will do for you,

    Oh but don't worry, you guys go ahead and protect your market gems.

    iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
    Ethan Freeman
    Doomheim
    #110 - 2013-02-25 04:07:01 UTC
    Candy Oshea wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral


    You know the forum actually has a signature function right? Roll

    Oh and nice of you to notice my iCandy bond threads, they sure fill quickly don't they!.

    Its amazing what a little disclosure will do for you,

    Oh but don't worry, you guys go ahead and protect your market gems.


    So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?


    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
    Candy Oshea
    Techfree Investment Group
    #111 - 2013-02-25 04:19:21 UTC
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?


    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.


  • Click on your name at the top of the forums

  • then profitle settings

  • forum settings

  • edit signature, paste in your "nothing holds more weight that full collateral"

  • then click save settings.

    • Congrats u now have a forum signature.

    iCandy  - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next shit could spell disaster!
    Free Machine
    First Moon Industries
    #112 - 2013-02-25 12:54:01 UTC
    Love how scammers can lie their way through anything in MD :)
    Dasola
    New Edens Freeports
    #113 - 2013-02-25 13:33:39 UTC
    Free Machine wrote:
    Love how scammers can lie their way through anything in MD :)


    It would not be MD without them...

    We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
    Agent Eunoli
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #114 - 2013-02-25 14:20:34 UTC
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?

    I'd like to do a deal.

    Please provide a list of your collateral and what amount you are currently looking for.

    I have my suspicions about your "group" that you are scammers who have no actual market plan but I am willing to be proven wrong.

    Cinematic HD EVE Movies: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveEunoli/
    Tom Hagen
    Twilight Empire
    #115 - 2013-02-25 14:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Hagen
    Ethan Freeman wrote:


    So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?.


    Actually - funny you bring this up - I am still waiting over a week for an in-game mail regarding a fully collaterlized loan sent to your associate Ash Holloway.

    Not that I am surprised to hear nothing, just strange that you are looking to fill from others before replying (in-game or through other means) to already existing serious investors.

    Unless of course you are just trying to use the collaterilized "offering" as a rep-grinding excersice to make unclooarelized offers look more legit. Then the behaviour is quite logical and not strange at all...

    I will let the rest of MD think themselves what is strange and what is not..

    Edit: I was asked via E-mail to edit my post to correct an error on my part. I don't like to subtract anything from a post once posted. I have a public apology 3 post down Smile
    Ethan Freeman
    Doomheim
    #116 - 2013-02-25 21:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
    Tom Hagen wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:


    So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?.


    Actually - funny you bring this up - I am still waiting over a week for an in-game mail regarding a fully collaterlized loan sent to your associate Ash Holloway.

    Not that I am surprised to hear nothing, just strange that you are looking to fill from others before replying (in-game or through other means) to already existing serious investors.

    Unless of course you are just trying to use the collaterilized "offering" as a rep-grinding excersice to make unclooarelized offers look more legit. Then the behaviour is quite logical and not strange at all...

    I will let the rest of MD think themselves what is strange and what is not..



    Checked with Ash, he sent you a mail at 2013.02.19 04:14, you never responded.

    Razor Rob made this exact same claim earlier in the thread, and it is completely false.


    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
    Ethan Freeman
    Doomheim
    #117 - 2013-02-25 21:32:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
    Agent Eunoli wrote:
    Ethan Freeman wrote:

    So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?

    I'd like to do a deal.

    Please provide a list of your collateral and what amount you are currently looking for.

    I have my suspicions about your "group" that you are scammers who have no actual market plan but I am willing to be proven wrong.




    A NETG member will shoot you an evemail.


    Nothing holds more weight than full collateral
    Tom Hagen
    Twilight Empire
    #118 - 2013-02-28 15:40:17 UTC
    I am sorry. That is correct, This statement are totally true.
    "Checked with Ash, he sent you a mail at 2013.02.19 04:14, you never responded."

    Unfortunately I have been really busy IRL. Maybe that was the reason why I missed Ash answer also Sad
    I will just go and hide in a corner in shame, and just let this serve as a friendly bump for now Blink
    Alex Grison
    Grison Universal
    #119 - 2013-02-28 17:29:09 UTC
    Tom Hagen wrote:
    I am sorry. That is correct, This statement are totally true.
    "Checked with Ash, he sent you a mail at 2013.02.19 04:14, you never responded."

    Unfortunately I have been really busy IRL. Maybe that was the reason why I missed Ash answer also Sad
    I will just go and hide in a corner in shame, and just let this serve as a friendly bump for now Blink




    Tom what are you doing

    yes
    Tom Hagen
    Twilight Empire
    #120 - 2013-02-28 18:01:20 UTC
    Alex Grison wrote:


    Tom what are you doing


    Just being truthful about how things have played out. While I still have my thoughts on the general viability of NETG and would not invest un-collateralized in any of their bonds, the truth is that they did answer to my mail and that they did offer collateral - and things should be put right I think. Oops I can admit an error (Good thing I make them so rarely Cool )

    On the note of the collateral - it was a valid collateral, but not one which I am interested at holding currently, hence I am also not interested currently to invest into the collateralized bond-offering