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Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-22 11:48:55 UTC
I honestly, literally facepalmed on your second paragraph.

Welcome to EVE.
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-02-22 14:08:22 UTC
I was and am angry when I wrote this but this is no troll post or whatsoever, I truly lost all. :(
Hyper Snyper
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-02-22 18:23:22 UTC
What area of space do you operate in? Caldari, Amarr, Gallente, or Minmatar? I dont ask this to come hunt you down but if you are in Caldari space or wish to travel there I have a Retreiver that you can have if you want to pick it up.
Mr Gordon Ramsay
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-02-22 19:13:59 UTC
YOU HAVE NO PASSION
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-02-22 21:45:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Damn, even got kicked from my Corp now because of my high bounty... The sad Haralian Oren wouldn't even see to my answer HOW I got this bounty, and blocked me.... Ugh
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-02-22 22:07:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm posting this to warn all of you against the sad Beta Bank. I met him in a chat room, told him I had lost everything I owned recently (a retriever) after working very hard for it, and since he kept on boasting about his ISK pile I asked if I maybe could have spare change for a restart. He did not want to give it to me, which is fine of course he is not obliged to it.

Later however he told me he felt sad about my loss, and said that whatever I had left ; he would double it. I would not have done this if he was alone in the chat, scammers are everywhere I know. But alot of people in the chat supported him, saying he was rich and trustworthy, so I felt he was. He however, was not. He stole everything I had left, everything, and to top it off he had put this bounty on me. Not only did he stole everything I had left, he also made my career impossible due to this bounty.

I hope you people will never trust this person who calls himself Beta Bank or his friends anymore, they're all very sad, and push me forward to quit this game. Ugh

Ps ; It wasn't his chat, it was the "blueprints" chat.

/rage off.

If he wanted to give you money, why would he ask for money from you? That makes no sense whatsoever. Why wasn't this a red flag? Did losing your retriever not already teach you that not everyone is here to hold hands around a campfire and sing kumbaya? Didn't your mother ever tell you not to trust strangers, especially not when they offer you candy? Not to mention you've broken the first rule of Eve; not flying anything you can't afford to lose. You have displayed a profound lack of basic common sense so far, but apparently you don't think you've managed to make yourself look bad enough yet and went on to complain about a system you don't understand. Nobody cares about your bounty. You're not in an expensive ship so the payout is negligible. Even if you were in an expensive ship, your bounty is probably not nearly as high as you think it is.

Mr Gordon Ramsay wrote:
YOU HAVE NO PASSION

And he freezes his food. *gasp*

Maximillian Stark wrote:
Damn, even got kicked from my Corp now because of my high bounty... The sad Haralian Oren wouldn't even see to my answer HOW I got this bounty, and blocked me.... Ugh

Your corp are just as stupid as you are and you should thank them for kicking you. They might even be how you got this way.
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-02-22 22:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Joran I never said I was good or something so it's pretty obvious this thread makes me look bad, don't think I dont know. I'm just warning the community here. And as for the first rule of EVE, well, I did not break it since I did not went into any dangerous zones, except for Jita being full of scammers maybe.

And like I said I only trusted him because nearly the whole chat supported him.. I know there are lots of scammers, but didn't know this many random players would join together to punish a noob.

And about the corp part lol, you made me laugh. P
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-02-22 22:19:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Joran I never said I was good or something so it's pretty obvious this thread makes me look bad, don't think I dont know.

I meant it makes you look like a bad person, not a bad player. Based on the quote I'm not sure I expressed that properly.

Maximillian Stark wrote:
I'm just warning the community here.

Thanks, but we already know.

Maximillian Stark wrote:
And like I said I only trusted him because nearly the whole chat supported him.. I know there are lots of scammers, but didn't know this many random players would join together to punish a noob.

They were either his alts or his friends. That or they simply noticed you didn't immediately recognize the scam like someone who isn't in a coma would normally be expected to do and thought it would be funny.

Maximillian Stark wrote:
And as for the first rule of EVE, well, I did not break it since I did not went into any dangerous zones, except for Jita being full of scammers maybe.

Yes you did. Eve is a dangerous area. All of it. The second rule is that you consent to PvP by undocking. There are areas where people will face more punishment for attacking you, but there are none that prevent them from doing so.
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-02-22 22:21:35 UTC
Tell me why I'm a bad person
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-02-22 22:33:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Tell me why I'm a bad person

Everything in this thread. Trusting complete strangers in a situation you (hopefully) wouldn't in real life, despite said strangers being anonymous and having to face far less consequences than they would in the equivalent real life situation. Lacking basic common sense. Refusing to learn from mistakes. Complaining about systems you don't understand and apparently made no attempt to. Joining a corp full of scrubs that will throw you out for literally nothing because they also don't understand how bounties work and then being upset that you can no longer hang out with the people who just mistreated you. Posting a rage thread over losing some pixels. Etc. I thought I had already covered this.

Edit: I don't give a single **** what happens to my ship. Since I'm making an effort to be more constructive lately I'll tell you why. I have a noctis, a myrmidon and 55 to 60 million in liquid ISK. Both have platinum insurance. If either or even both of them got blown up I could have them replaced, refit and back in space in minutes. I normally only fly ships I can have a whole stack of, but since I'm stuck in high sec for now I might as well enjoy it, right?

You may have noticed I could instead have rushed to a battleship for what these ships costed. I didn't because even in high sec I can still lose it. I can even be killed in PvP, whether by suicide gankers as you likely were or if I was in a player corp someone could declare war. I could be disconnected in the middle of a mission or die in myriad other ways. One of the first things you need to learn if you want to keep playing is that you can't let a single loss reset your income potential to 'newbie in a velator' level.
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-02-22 23:05:59 UTC
Oh I learned alot since this happened trust me, talked with alot of people about my problems. Thanks for your input though I will use it.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-02-22 23:31:31 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm posting this to warn all of you against the sad Beta Bank. I met him in a chat room, told him I had lost everything I owned recently (a retriever) after working very hard for it, and since he kept on boasting about his ISK pile I asked if I maybe could have spare change for a restart. He did not want to give it to me, which is fine of course he is not obliged to it.

Later however he told me he felt sad about my loss, and said that whatever I had left ; he would double it. I would not have done this if he was alone in the chat, scammers are everywhere I know. But alot of people in the chat supported him, saying he was rich and trustworthy, so I felt he was. He however, was not. He stole everything I had left, everything, and to top it off he had put this bounty on me. Not only did he stole everything I had left, he also made my career impossible due to this bounty.

I hope you people will never trust this person who calls himself Beta Bank or his friends anymore, they're all very sad, and push me forward to quit this game. Ugh

Ps ; It wasn't his chat, it was the "blueprints" chat.

/rage off.


1.) You were flying something you couldn't afford to loose....mistake 1.

2.) You trusted someone you don't know...mistake 2

3.) You fell for the oldest scam in EVE (send me ISK and I will double)...mistake 3.

4.) You thought that some strangers were reliable intel (could be his friends or even alts)...mistake 4.

5.) Thinking that a bounty actually matters in EVE...mistake 5 ***Bounties don't change any of the aggression right mechanics***

So....who is to blame, not the scammer

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-02-23 00:47:40 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Thank you for the replies, I know it was too good to be true, but (nearly?) everyone in the chat supported him so I thought he couldn't be a random stranger. X
"Everyone" in chat were his alts.
Orlacc
#34 - 2013-02-23 04:09:01 UTC
"A Riveting Read!"

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Camille Sarain
Jesus And The Jesubots
#35 - 2013-02-25 14:46:00 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm posting this to warn all of you against the sad Beta Bank. I met him in a chat room, told him I had lost everything I owned recently (a retriever) after working very hard for it, and since he kept on boasting about his ISK pile I asked if I maybe could have spare change for a restart. He did not want to give it to me, which is fine of course he is not obliged to it.

Later however he told me he felt sad about my loss, and said that whatever I had left ; he would double it. I would not have done this if he was alone in the chat, scammers are everywhere I know. But alot of people in the chat supported him, saying he was rich and trustworthy, so I felt he was. He however, was not. He stole everything I had left, everything, and to top it off he had put this bounty on me. Not only did he stole everything I had left, he also made my career impossible due to this bounty.

I hope you people will never trust this person who calls himself Beta Bank or his friends anymore, they're all very sad, and push me forward to quit this game. Ugh

Ps ; It wasn't his chat, it was the "blueprints" chat.

/rage off.


When I got to the word 'Bounty' I laughed so hard I dropped my biscuit in my tea XD
Nytoxias' Female Alt
Chroma Corp
Prismatic Legion
#36 - 2013-02-25 18:48:21 UTC
Trinity Angel
Victorious Secret.
#37 - 2013-02-25 20:19:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinity Angel
Hey look at the bright side!

join goons! (for a fee of course) that way you will win the scammed player of the year award!

contract scam. check
double your money scam. check
pay fee to join goons........ in process
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-02-25 20:24:52 UTC
Trinity Angel wrote:

pay fee to join goons........ in process


Lol From what money
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#39 - 2013-02-25 20:33:05 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
He only offered to double it? Cheapskate

Rule # 234 of Eve
If it looks too good to be true, it's a scam


Rule # 235 of Eve
It's always a scam

nom nom
Agent Trask
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-02-25 20:41:15 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
He only offered to double it? Cheapskate

Rule # 234 of Eve
If it looks too good to be true, it's a scam


Rule # 235 of Eve
It's always a scam


Including Maximillian Stark's pleas:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=209502&find=unread

Everything in EvE Online IS a scam.

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