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Mining Drone Hotkeys?
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Ryonin Shonin
New Jovian Exploration Department
New Jovian Collective
#1 - 2013-02-24 23:38:09 UTC
When I'm mining I find it time consuming when switching between my Warrior II's and my Mining drone II's. It would be awesome to see a mine repeatedly Hotkey. Does anyone else feel this way?
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#2 - 2013-02-25 20:14:33 UTC
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight
Hae Sung
#3 - 2013-02-25 20:50:11 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight



I never got this mentality. If there is a command in the game available through clicking I see no reason that there couldn't be a bindable hotkey to execute the same command.

I ran into this frequently with the "launch drones" command. There are commands to recall drones and to send them to attack, but not to send them to mine or to launch a set flight from your bay.

Yes its quite easy to execute mouse clicks - I'm just curious as to why CCP chose some command and not others to be bindable. A move to include more key binds is definitely one of the things that I would like to see as they revamp the UI going forward.
Vixen Verdi
Dead Cow Theory
#4 - 2013-03-04 08:25:47 UTC
Hae Sung wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight



I never got this mentality. If there is a command in the game available through clicking I see no reason that there couldn't be a bindable hotkey to execute the same command.

I ran into this frequently with the "launch drones" command. There are commands to recall drones and to send them to attack, but not to send them to mine or to launch a set flight from your bay.

Yes its quite easy to execute mouse clicks - I'm just curious as to why CCP chose some command and not others to be bindable. A move to include more key binds is definitely one of the things that I would like to see as they revamp the UI going forward.


+1
Eblis O'Shaughnesy
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-03-06 21:00:44 UTC
I just googled "eve online mine repeatedly hotkey" after not being able to find any in-game. It's disheartening that this was the first link. =(
Dave Stark
#6 - 2013-03-06 21:18:16 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight


right click your drones in local space bar, 1
click mine repeatedly, 2.
two clicks.

also, combat drones have a shortcut so why is it such a terrible thing if mining drones have them?
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#7 - 2013-03-07 20:27:26 UTC
OK, a 'Launch Drones" button.

You're doing what you do and want to launch drones so you hit the "L" button which you've cunningly assigned L for Launch Drones.

All is well and groovy when you've got 5 drones in your drone bay which get spat into space and then you've got to press the "S" button for 'Do Something' (I think D is already taken)


So yes you've now got 5 drones out in space doing something with 2 keyboard presses.


However in your hulk you've also got 5 Warrior II's as well as your 5 Mining Drone II's so you will now get a combination of 3 mining drone II's and 2 Warrior II's attacking the rat that's bugging you.



Seriously if mining is that hard work then it's time to look for another eve career, I hear freighter flying is quite easy on the clicks needed to do it.
Dave Stark
#8 - 2013-03-07 20:48:17 UTC
again, it's not about making mining easier, it's about a missing functionality that is already there for other drones.
Zeiss Prime
Mortem Heavy Industries
#9 - 2013-04-01 18:44:47 UTC
I agree with you. The game would be much better with more keyboard utilization in general, mouse clicking gets aggravating fast and really slows you down.

On another note, when doing mining, I find placing the drones into groups works the best to control them one right click on each group and you have full control over every drone that is in it.

Cheers,
Prime
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-04-02 06:33:47 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight


That's an arrogant response. There should be a hotkey, purely because there is one for every other type. That's like saying there should be no hotkey to any drone because that would make them lazy.
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#11 - 2013-04-02 21:17:48 UTC
Steve WingYip wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight


That's an arrogant response. There should be a hotkey, purely because there is one for every other type. That's like saying there should be no hotkey to any drone because that would make them lazy.


Not to be a **** but is there one for salvaging drones?
Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-04-02 21:36:35 UTC
After you launch salvage dones to space you can just hit the generic droneattack button and they start working.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2013-04-03 00:07:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Killing rats is what an Orca's drones are for Big smile

[Rorqual can easily handle triple-battleship nulsec spawns, and rep mining ships, but a Rorqual in a belt is a killmail waiting to happen. Hot-drop o'clock!]
IronLemur
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-05-12 04:04:30 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
Nope

If you've got drones out it's what? a 1 right click or something to set them mining.

Don't be so lazy, mining is easy enough without making it easier, what next, autocycling lasers, target a few roids and when 1 pops your laser starts on the next one cos pressing f1 or whatever is too hard work Straight



You're an idiot. Pressing a button to attack a rat or a player is more work? This is a video game none of us are working hard get off your pedestal.

I agree there should be a hotkey it is dumb there isn't the 'attack' shortcut I believe used to work with mining drones as well. I know it still works with salvage drones I'm not sure why CCP changed it.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#15 - 2013-05-12 08:47:56 UTC
Over thinking it.

You have to launch the drone group you want.
Eve is not made to actually read your mind.
No launch drone hot key should ever exist.


The current engage target command needs to be broadened.
It should make any drone engage in what they would normally do if able.
DPS, Repair, salvage, mine, EW shouldn't matter.
If it can't do the task the drone just keeps floating.


On a side note:
Good chance it's easier for ccp programmers to fix by updating to achieve this function.
Meaning it's far more likely that they will fix it if we push for it.
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#16 - 2013-05-12 17:17:31 UTC
Until CCP develop a neural interface so you can jack in (not off) to eve, then there will be work involved.

Target Asteroid
Right Click Drone Group
Select Launch Drones
Right Click Drone Group in Local Space
Select Mine Repeatedly


Once the drones are out, then all you need to do is select the asteroid and then right click the drone group and select Mine Repeatedly.


Is this simple process really that hard work? or am I missing something.

Yes there could be a shortcut for Mine Repeatedly, much as there could be shortcuts for a whole host of industry functions, installing multiple jobs at one time for example.

There are so many thing that need attention from the devs/coders, saving a couple of right mouse clicks every so often in my eyes isn't one of them.

It's beyond me how lazy people are, you want the extra ore that mining drones provide but don't seem to want to do anything for it, or are you that anal that you want to squeeze every last potential bit of yield you can out of your mining time, (I take it you park as close as possible to the roid you want your drones to mine to cut down traveling time, fit no tank to your mining ship for maximum yield, and keep hitting the survey scanner button to work out when to switch off your mining laser to switch to another roid.) And yet you complain about a couple of right clicks for your drones being hard work Roll
Mari Hata
Main Street Crafts and Goods
#17 - 2013-05-12 19:52:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mari Hata
Lazyness has always been the driving force behind human progress. If it wasn't for it, the wheel would never have been invented in the first place.

EDIT : yes , I do time my cycles. Blink

♫ ♪ ♪
Clansworth
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-05-13 00:43:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Clansworth
Hae Sung wrote:
I'm just curious as to why CCP chose some command and not others to be bindable.

The simple answer is that no CCP employee mines. As long as there are enough people who still drudge through the terrible mining experience, there is nothing 'broken' in it to them.

NOTE: I am one of those people who continue to mine - does that mean the bad interface is my fault?
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#19 - 2013-05-13 04:50:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Emma Royd
Clansworth wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I'm just curious as to why CCP chose some command and not others to be bindable.

The simple answer is that no CCP employee mines. As long as there are enough people who still drudge through the terrible mining experience, there is nothing 'broken' in it to them.

NOTE: I am one of those people who continue to mine - does that mean the bad interface is my fault?


That wasn't me who said that, but hey :)

Industry has taken a poor 2nd place in the game for a long time, as industry players are a minority. I can understand CCP looking after the majority more, but it would be nice to have someone on the dev-team who is industry focused and starts interacting with the playerbase by posting more in the S&I forum with plans, comments etc.
Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-05-13 08:28:26 UTC
Clansworth wrote:
Emma Royd wrote:
I'm just curious as to why CCP chose some command and not others to be bindable.

The simple answer is that no CCP employee mines. As long as there are enough people who still drudge through the terrible mining experience, there is nothing 'broken' in it to them.

NOTE: I am one of those people who continue to mine - does that mean the bad interface is my fault?


CCP CEO is a famous miner.
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