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EvE is weird: Topic - PIRATES

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#101 - 2013-02-25 12:56:28 UTC
Imagine that, undocking and getting shot, wow this game is going down hill P

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#102 - 2013-02-25 13:15:35 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
You're reading into this way too deeply. Pirates shoot haulers because they want "kills", simple as that.

They say they like "causing tears" and that they have some burning desire to destroy and ruin peoples days, but that's just talk. It's for the kills, it's for the killboard.

They want a kill, you are an easy one. Haul your stuff in a Battleship and some of the ***** ones will probably just leave you to it.


No, we pirate ships for the isk.
Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2013-02-25 13:28:54 UTC
Disregarding suicide ganks, piracy in the original sense of the word is pretty much impossible at the moment.
In high sec the only way to kill someone is to suicide gank or to trick them into getting a suspect flag (don't know if that's still possible, haven't bothered with it in a while).
In low sec, there's simply no targets. Low sec is not profitable enough to warrant the risk associated with doing PvE there so it's pretty much become a circle jerk for gang PvP, which most of the time is consensual.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2013-02-25 15:00:30 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Low sec is not profitable enough to warrant the risk associated with doing PvE there


I disagree but I'm not about to explain more than that.

We pirate for profit.

I still find it funny when people try to say that how you act in a game reflects how you act in real life.
If I play a thief in Skyrim, does that make me a thief in real life?
Or my I just playing in an imaginary world within the confines of that world?

How is eve different?
I'm just leveraging my in game abilities to make isk and do better than those around me.
If I fail and lose isk, then so be it, If I succeed and make a profit then all the better.

Trust me, I'm not about to mug people in real life.
There's no sushi in prison and the beds are too short.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#105 - 2013-02-25 15:46:03 UTC


The world is in a constant state of "Anarchy", it's just mitigated by the actions of some to chose to cooperate. Whether or not they are conscious of this "Social Contract" ever existing in the first place.

You are simply trained to be a good boy.

So, really, pirates are the natural order of things, and you're the aberration who thinks you can fly a huge target through the middle of the woods and get away with it "on the principle of things" without any protection.

That's arrogant, absurd and naive.

You realize those pirates move haulers, freighters and other stuff through the same space you got blown up in. Except, they're doing it right.


Where I am.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2013-02-25 15:54:47 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
Trust me, I'm not about to mug people in real life.
There's no sushi in prison and the beds are too short.

trust noone and all this stuff.... Roll

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#107 - 2013-02-25 15:54:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Karrl Tian
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Disregarding suicide ganks, piracy in the original sense of the word is pretty much impossible at the moment.
In high sec the only way to kill someone is to suicide gank or to trick them into getting a suspect flag (don't know if that's still possible, haven't bothered with it in a while).
In low sec, there's simply no targets. Low sec is not profitable enough to warrant the risk associated with doing PvE there so it's pretty much become a circle jerk for gang PvP, which most of the time is consensual.


I actually made a character who would do nothing but bad guy stuff for his isk. And it worked, I wasn't rich, but I did manage to make money and progress on him through nefarious deeds on suspecting or ill experienced victims....By can-flipping. Roll So thanks again, CCP, for the new game enhancements.

If I learned one thing from that experience (besides the fact that highsec miner subs are where CCP's money comes from) it's that Highsec piracy in general was always the best way to make isk nefariously because that's just where all the loose hanging purses and fat wallets are.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#108 - 2013-02-25 16:31:22 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
So... you're saying that what I do in a game should have an impact on my real life? And you're suggesting that that impact come from other players in the game.

In what way is that not asking for the ability to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?


Remember, and I feel like you need this told to you multiple times (possibly by a licensed psychologist), EVE Online is a game, in the exact same way Chess is a game. Actions in EVE have the exact same moral significance as actions in a game of Chess.


Not exactly.
What I am suggesting is accountability , the PERSON behind the toon should be responsible for the acts


TL;DR

You want to harass people in real life because of what they do in a game.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#109 - 2013-02-25 18:18:06 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
So... you're saying that what I do in a game should have an impact on my real life? And you're suggesting that that impact come from other players in the game.

In what way is that not asking for the ability to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?


Remember, and I feel like you need this told to you multiple times (possibly by a licensed psychologist), EVE Online is a game, in the exact same way Chess is a game. Actions in EVE have the exact same moral significance as actions in a game of Chess.


Not exactly.
What I am suggesting is accountability , the PERSON behind the toon should be responsible for the acts


TL;DR

You want to harass people in real life because of what they do in a game.


No , you missed everthing.
Its to link all alts and main to a centraol ROOT account which can be traced via API , so people can see what sort of alter ego you're fielding and judge your psychological profile adequately.
Thus making the person behind the account accountable for the actions instead of the toon.
The root account name can be an alias .

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2013-02-25 18:46:36 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Disregarding suicide ganks, piracy in the original sense of the word is pretty much impossible at the moment.
In high sec the only way to kill someone is to suicide gank or to trick them into getting a suspect flag (don't know if that's still possible, haven't bothered with it in a while).
In low sec, there's simply no targets. Low sec is not profitable enough to warrant the risk associated with doing PvE there so it's pretty much become a circle jerk for gang PvP, which most of the time is consensual.


Without meaning to derail, I respectfully disagree. My friends and I make a fine income through various nefarious highsec methods.

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#111 - 2013-02-25 18:57:18 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Hauler ganking ...
Shooting at someone helpless.
I can hear your peniz deflating


*Who chooses to make themselves helpless. And a Pinata.

Important part, that.


You know.... what one does when his true identity is anonymous reflects a lot on their true personality.
Do you believe in times of anarchy , one can do whatever he wants ,including pillaging , **** and extortion .... and the one with the biggest stick makes the rules?

These situations are real.

Eve is imaginary.

This has nothing to do with anonymity muppet.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#112 - 2013-02-25 18:57:30 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:


No , you missed everthing.
Its to link all alts and main to a centraol ROOT account which can be traced via API , so people can see what sort of alter ego you're fielding and judge your psychological profile adequately.
Thus making the person behind the account accountable for the actions instead of the toon.
The root account name can be an alias .


So you want the RL address of the guy who just ganked you in a game so you can stalk them?

What sort of twisted person are you?
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2013-02-25 19:40:37 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
No , you missed everthing.
Its to link all alts and main to a centraol ROOT account which can be traced via API , so people can see what sort of alter ego you're fielding and judge your psychological profile adequately.
Thus making the person behind the account accountable for the actions instead of the toon.
The root account name can be an alias .

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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
#114 - 2013-02-25 22:14:27 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
indies who can't shoot back???


False. Industrialists are just as capable of shooting people as the ones who shoot them. Try again.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#115 - 2013-02-25 22:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Not exactly.
What I am suggesting is accountability , the PERSON behind the toon should be responsible for the acts


TL;DR

You want to harass people in real life because of what they do in a game.


No , you missed everthing.
Its to link all alts and main to a centraol ROOT account which can be traced via API , so people can see what sort of alter ego you're fielding and judge your psychological profile adequately.
Thus making the person behind the account accountable for the actions instead of the toon.
The root account name can be an alias .


No, he's just ignoring the part where you went back to edit your posts to (badly) hide the fact that that is exactly what you were calling for.


And, even with the edits, you are trying to entirely remove the possibility of spying effectively. All to... what? You don't get the API of people who kill you in killmails, so haulers aren't going to gain any new information.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#116 - 2013-02-25 23:32:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Not exactly.
What I am suggesting is accountability , the PERSON behind the toon should be responsible for the acts


TL;DR

You want to harass people in real life because of what they do in a game.


No , you missed everthing.
Its to link all alts and main to a centraol ROOT account which can be traced via API , so people can see what sort of alter ego you're fielding and judge your psychological profile adequately.
Thus making the person behind the account accountable for the actions instead of the toon.
The root account name can be an alias .


No, he's just ignoring the part where you went back to edit your posts to (badly) hide the fact that that is exactly what you were calling for.


And, even with the edits, you are trying to entirely remove the possibility of spying effectively. All to... what? You don't get the API of people who kill you in killmails, so haulers aren't going to gain any new information.


That's because I was wrong on quite a few accounts and I corrected my posts as I rethink my statements and is corrected by various people in the post?
With the API key problem.
Yes , yes you do.
You provide API key to a killboard or battleflinic , chances are you'll end up on griefer watch some way or another , and this is a simple extension of that.
CONSEQUENCES TO THE PUPPETEERS,NOT THE PUPPETS

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The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
#117 - 2013-02-25 23:35:54 UTC
Tears.

Watching really stupid people fail at hotdropping.

Tears

Threads like this

Being a smartass is always better than being a dumbass!
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#118 - 2013-02-25 23:41:43 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
That anonymity and that severance from one's real life identity destroyed that system and those who are intrinsically predators on the weak but are held back by social pressure in real life unleashes their ugly face on the honorable and those trying to make a honest living.

THAT must change.

You will ALWAYS have the option to opt out of such scheme, but if you're not willing to face the consequences and the legacy you'll left behind from your actions.

I say you're a coward


And what happens when you don't do anything wrong and someone comes after you anyway? You could...I dunno...KNOW a guy who did a bad thing to someone, and because that someone can't get at the people who actually did the bad thing, he comes after you instead.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#119 - 2013-02-26 00:25:13 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
That anonymity and that severance from one's real life identity destroyed that system and those who are intrinsically predators on the weak but are held back by social pressure in real life unleashes their ugly face on the honorable and those trying to make a honest living.

THAT must change.

You will ALWAYS have the option to opt out of such scheme, but if you're not willing to face the consequences and the legacy you'll left behind from your actions.

I say you're a coward


And what happens when you don't do anything wrong and someone comes after you anyway? You could...I dunno...KNOW a guy who did a bad thing to someone, and because that someone can't get at the people who actually did the bad thing, he comes after you instead.


This is eve , we aren't here to STOP people from doing certain things , we are here to provide the consequences.

And about those who said EvE and real life psychology isn't connected.

It is , its provides insight to yourself.
What sort of person would you be when rules of society no longer constrain your mortal flesh and you become a demigod.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#120 - 2013-02-26 00:29:08 UTC
The CandyGirl wrote:
Tears.

Watching really stupid people fail at hotdropping.

Tears

Threads like this


Hotsldropping Is A PERFECTLY LEGIT method of combat and has my losses from such have no relevance to this.
On a side note , I am very careful with my industrial ships , so no.
This thread isn'tfrom my hatred towards pirates , its from my bewilderment and reflection on my recent life in piracy.

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