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What if a ship self-destruct created an AOE detonation wave?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-02-25 11:28:54 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
You know self destruct has such a long countdown you'll be dead before it goes off, right?


Well, imagine a suicide carrier fitted with max tank dealing over 25000 AOE, this would be funny to see on KB's

Ships killed 7B -Ships lost 12B to an AOE effect ;)

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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#42 - 2013-02-25 11:42:45 UTC
Having a monocle should enable this feature!

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#43 - 2013-02-25 12:15:09 UTC
*reads thread title*
then so will ships that explode due to excessive weapon damage.

bad idea is bad kthxbai
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#44 - 2013-02-25 12:28:11 UTC
You forgot freigthers and jump freighters...

Now.. a freighter filled to the brim with ammo / inustrial explosives / bombs what have you.. it would be the new superweapon ;)
or if you don't mind spending a little.. a jump freighter..

Fleet fight ensues... hero cyno flies in and goes up in the middle of the enemy fleet.. Jump Freighter jumps in, and explodes.

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#45 - 2013-02-25 12:48:00 UTC
Xearal wrote:
You forgot freigthers and jump freighters...

Now.. a freighter filled to the brim with ammo / inustrial explosives / bombs what have you.. it would be the new superweapon ;)
or if you don't mind spending a little.. a jump freighter..

Fleet fight ensues... hero cyno flies in and goes up in the middle of the enemy fleet.. Jump Freighter jumps in, and explodes.


Bringing doomsday back!
that's definitely a winning argument why self-destructing should cause damage around the ship.
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-02-25 13:29:51 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?



And externally initiated self-destruct is called being blown the **** up.

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Arkane Mystic
POT Corp
#47 - 2013-02-25 14:20:47 UTC
I support this idea.

I could put cargo expanders on my T1 frigate, load it up with T2 ammo and go fly it into the side of a unsuspecting freighter.
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#48 - 2013-02-25 14:24:51 UTC
I support the idea of more damage, especially in the docking range of Jita 4-4.

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Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-02-25 15:10:17 UTC
All I could think was Corpse Explosion from D2...but that was before I noticed 'self-destruct'

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-02-25 16:34:04 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
2. Deny the enemy a killmail


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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2013-02-25 16:50:29 UTC
Arkane Mystic wrote:
I support this idea.

I could put cargo expanders on my T1 frigate, load it up with T2 ammo and go fly it into the side of a unsuspecting freighter.


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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-02-25 17:25:05 UTC
Having AOE self destruct would be a rather cheap game mechanic. I don't think it has any place in this game.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#53 - 2013-02-25 17:44:25 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

Also, why limit it to self-destruct? Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?


So - Ammo that doesn't drop, instead goes off in secondary explosions? Cooooool...Cool
And can those secondaries pod the pilot? Please..?!Twisted Maybe even trigger tertiary detonations in ammo that hasn't yet 'cooked off..?'


Even if the secondaries don't do AOE damage, I'd still lke to see them. Pop a frieghter full of ammo, instant fireworks! Lol

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Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-02-25 17:51:34 UTC
Oh hey. Our thousands of suicide bombers newbies are our strength. سبحان الله.

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#55 - 2013-02-26 02:06:36 UTC
Ofcourse the person flying the ship that explodes would get podded instantly from an explosion like that, who cares, I want to ram a freighter filled to the brim with Bombs into a Titan.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-02-26 05:41:17 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
The current ship self-destruct system seems to be in place for 2 reasons.

1. Pod yourself to get back to your clone
2. Deny the enemy a killmail

What if CCP created an AOE damage wave to go along with the self destruct. The larger the ship the greater the damage wave and the further it extends. This wave would effect all the ships within it, friendly and enemy alike. Kinda like a smartbomb, only bigger.

for example something like:

Frigate - 500 hp to 4,000 meters
Cruiser - 750 hp to 5,000 meters
Battleship - 2500 hp to 7,500 meters
Carrier - 25,000 hp to 10,000 meters
Titan - 75,000 hp to 15,000 meters

These numbers are just examples and would certainly have to be tweaked.

It would give the player a list ditch, If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me option.

Would you be more apt to use the self destruct option knowing you might be able to take a few with you on the way out?

How would this change the fleet tactics being used currently?



in 2003 this was true, but the damage was so horribly small it didn't matter, then they took it away, and they took away the torpedo aoe splash damage, and they took away the deployable mines.... something about the client having to check to see what's damaged creating lag... boo

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#57 - 2013-02-26 08:12:03 UTC
I always liked this idea.
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