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Solo PvP, Is it viable with T1 guns?
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Vizvig
Savage Blizzard
#21 - 2013-02-23 10:07:16 UTC
Train t2 guns, 4 all capacitor and nav skills, make alt booster for yourself and only after it ask about solo pvp.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2013-02-23 10:50:03 UTC
Vizvig wrote:
Train t2 guns, 4 all capacitor and nav skills, make alt booster for yourself and only after it ask about solo pvp.


Die in a fire (In game <.<)

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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
#23 - 2013-02-23 11:03:20 UTC
NO.............NOT AT ALL>>>>>>>> Train T2. It is better to PVP with T2 guns and level 4 support than it is to PVP with Level 5 support with T1 guns. It's true. Spec your guns.

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.

Lictas Alice
Lazer Hawkz
#24 - 2013-02-23 13:01:40 UTC
Vizvig wrote:
Train t2 guns, 4 all capacitor and nav skills, make alt booster for yourself and only after it ask about solo pvp.


solo pvp

Alt booster

Makes sense.
Vizvig
Savage Blizzard
#25 - 2013-02-23 13:08:57 UTC
Lictas Alice wrote:


solo pvp

Alt booster

Makes sense.

Go and explain it in any low sec local.

Where live isk farming FW alts and booster-falcon soloers.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#26 - 2013-02-25 08:32:46 UTC
Important to ask: Are we talking FW farming or actual nullsec? Because FW attracts far, far, far more novice players than nullsec does... at least as far as PvP goes.

In FW you might get away with T1 weapons because there is a chance that budget conscious newbie coming at you might not be able to afford/use anything better themselves.

In nullsec PvP, though, if you've got even one component on your ship that isn't T2 then there's no point in even bothering to shoot back. You've lost from the moment they've hack-locked & scambled you in 0.00001 seconds.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#27 - 2013-02-25 12:03:53 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Important to ask: Are we talking FW farming or actual nullsec? Because FW attracts far, far, far more novice players than nullsec does... at least as far as PvP goes.

In FW you might get away with T1 weapons because there is a chance that budget conscious newbie coming at you might not be able to afford/use anything better themselves.

In nullsec PvP, though, if you've got even one component on your ship that isn't T2 then there's no point in even bothering to shoot back. You've lost from the moment they've hack-locked & scambled you in 0.00001 seconds.


suggesting that Null-sec has the better ratio of decent pvpers, rofl.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#28 - 2013-02-25 18:38:42 UTC
I wasn't aware that victory in PVP was about throwing as much ISK as you can at something.

Brb buying a Mach.
Taoist Dragon
x Never Regret x
#29 - 2013-02-25 20:05:16 UTC
Solo pvp is perfectly viable with T1 guns.

As an experiment about 6 months ago I started a new toon and within 3 days started getting killing in low sec.

The lower the meta lvl of your fit to more player skill/knowledge is required but it is do-able.

However. An eve newbie with low meta lvl fit will struggle unless they have a decent corp or learn really quickly from reading. But it can be done.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Gallente Citizen 827473904573
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-02-26 11:46:54 UTC
As far as I see it, finding and picking the right target is more important than your fit.
I'm pretty new to this aswell and still try to get any kill at all (I'm only trying to find a fight once in a while and I suck at picking the right systems for that). but a not properly fitted cruiser can definitely be killed in a lpw-SP t1 fit destroyer.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#31 - 2013-02-26 16:30:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Inkuras
If there is any one weapon system that really shines with T2 (and is quite honestly crippled with T1 guns) it is Lasers. Scorch ammo is a gift from God.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#32 - 2013-03-03 04:53:48 UTC
Support skills. T2 guns without decent gunnery/missile and agility skills (level 4 at least) won't make much difference with a target that can kill you.

Kiting is good to start with if your tank skills are poor since you basically rely on not getting hit much. But you need good navigation skills.

Oh, and T1 rails are fine. Look for the prototype meta (from memory) since it's cheaper and has similar DPS/tracking to T2. People rarely seem to use T2 rail ammo.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
2manno Asp
Death By Design
#33 - 2013-03-03 05:19:57 UTC
t2 skills give you 10% more damage at lvl 5 (something you really only need to train to 4 unless you have nothing better to train). and they give you access to t2 ammo. so the t1 question matters depending on which race you're using.

imo you can get away with t1 in gallente and caldari.

meta 4 t1 launchers and t1 rails are fine, these aren't about dps and faction is the ammo of choice anyway.

if your'e amarr, you really need scorch. the whole faction falls apart whithout it. t2 is a must imo.

minnie, you can get away with it, but t2 is preferable because dps isn't high beyond optimal and barrage is necessary in many situations.

apart from that, the most important things will remain the fights you pick and how you fight them. at the end of the day, most fights will be won and lost by that and few will come down to the extra dps you get with t2.
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#34 - 2013-03-03 12:41:29 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
I don't have T2 guns trained yet, but I want to pew pew as much as posssible, and it's not always possible to find a suitable fleet.

So I wanted to gather opinions on whether solo PvP in null-sec without T2 guns fitted is viable. I would I just get slaughtered due to having sub-par dps?


I think it mostly depends on your choice of targets. If you are going after ratters and catch them in a belt or anomoly with rats already hitting their tank then yes you can probably get some good kills. Especially if you have drone skills as well as your meta 4 guns.

If, however, you plan on engaging folks with t2 guns or missiles in a fair fight between equal sized ships then no you will likely get yourself killed regularly. But this is eve. No one really fights fair anyway do they?

Seraph Castillon
In Control
#35 - 2013-03-03 13:41:42 UTC
The short answer is: yes, as long as your fit rock-scissors-paper beats the fit of your target.

Kiting fits have an obvious advantage because it is their role to slowly bring down their target while mitigating damage. Slightly less damage output will not affect them that much. However, playing to your strengths will still allow you to take and win a lot of fights with a low SP fit. If, for example, you catch a Condor on the warp in of a FW complex it won't matter if your blasters are T1 or T2. The condor will die.

Look at each fit separately. Look at the fits you will be facing. Does your lack of skills break your fit or is it still viable? Adjust to different fits/tactics if needed. There really is no general answer to your question.
G13 Haze
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-03-05 13:48:15 UTC
It's all down to skill ;) oh and bring some friends and gangbang them instead
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