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HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-02-25 00:57:20 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:

You vets trip me out man...you say noobs should ask questions then when we do you call us trolls...then when we do dumb **** out of ignorance you jump on us for not asking questions, but when we ask questions you call us trolls, but when we don't ask questions you call us idiots for not asking questions and...


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Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-02-25 00:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Doobie
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:


I've been playing for like, 4 months dude.

I barely even know who the hell BOB is.

From what I see, the Master/Pet dynamic is very much alive and well in nullsec. That's why it sucks so much. People are scared to fight for fear of disrupting daddy's isk hoarding operation.

That and "oh I can't have a mind of my own. I'm a new Alliance and I have to join a blue blob coalition to survive and a better play ball or my space will be taken away".

It's garbage.


If you're 4 months old, you shouldn't be making comments on subjects you very obviously don't understand, nor formulating opinions based on what you hear on the forums and highsec rather than firsthand experience.

Returning space is not a big deal. It is politics. They had two options, return CFC space to another CFC entity, or burn bridges, lose it in a sightly longer period of time, and make a very powerful enemy. They intelligently returned the space.

When coalitions invade regions, it isn't one alliance doing the work. It is every member group. Space is generally split between alliances that did very well or don't have a "home" yet, but the space was conquered by every member of the coalition.

When a group leaves a coalition and returns their space to it, they're simply giving it to another entity that bled just as much for it as they did.


1) I know I don't know everything. Hence the reason I made a thread inquiring on the subject.
2) 4 months is plenty of time to see null sec for what it is: an oligarchy. Are you claiming differently? What exactly, in your eyes, would be the fate of a new alliance to null that refused to join a coalition?
3) You're a bit late explaining the Convicted situation, but thank you still.Any information is appreciated.


Plus what you said doesn't make much sense. If convicted helped CFC then why was ALL of their space taken? And why was ALL of the space given to GSF if GSF didn't do ALL of the work? Why wasn't it split between the remaining CFC members?
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-02-25 01:11:10 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:


I've been playing for like, 4 months dude.

I barely even know who the hell BOB is.

From what I see, the Master/Pet dynamic is very much alive and well in nullsec. That's why it sucks so much. People are scared to fight for fear of disrupting daddy's isk hoarding operation.

That and "oh I can't have a mind of my own. I'm a new Alliance and I have to join a blue blob coalition to survive and a better play ball or my space will be taken away".

It's garbage.


If you're 4 months old, you shouldn't be making comments on subjects you very obviously don't understand, nor formulating opinions based on what you hear on the forums and highsec rather than firsthand experience.

Returning space is not a big deal. It is politics. They had two options, return CFC space to another CFC entity, or burn bridges, lose it in a sightly longer period of time, and make a very powerful enemy. They intelligently returned the space.

When coalitions invade regions, it isn't one alliance doing the work. It is every member group. Space is generally split between alliances that did very well or don't have a "home" yet, but the space was conquered by every member of the coalition.

When a group leaves a coalition and returns their space to it, they're simply giving it to another entity that bled just as much for it as they did.


1) I know I don't know everything. Hence the reason I made a thread inquiring on the subject.
2) 4 months is plenty of time to see null sec for what it is: an oligarchy. Are you claiming differently? What exactly, in your eyes, would be the fate of a new alliance to null that refused to join a coalition?
3) You're a bit late explaining the Convicted situation, but thank you still.Any information is appreciated.


Plus what you said doesn't make much sense. If convicted helped CFC then why was ALL of their space taken? And why was ALL of the space given to GSF if GSF didn't do ALL of the work? Why wasn't it split between the remaining CFC members?


The CFC has two standing rules: 1) all members must participate in strategic ops and 2) you must remain stable and not give the other member alliances migraines.

Convicted was having problems with corp turnover (which was true) and was (allegedly) having leadership issues and were asked to leave

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Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-02-25 01:19:52 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:


I've been playing for like, 4 months dude.

I barely even know who the hell BOB is.

From what I see, the Master/Pet dynamic is very much alive and well in nullsec. That's why it sucks so much. People are scared to fight for fear of disrupting daddy's isk hoarding operation.

That and "oh I can't have a mind of my own. I'm a new Alliance and I have to join a blue blob coalition to survive and a better play ball or my space will be taken away".

It's garbage.


If you're 4 months old, you shouldn't be making comments on subjects you very obviously don't understand, nor formulating opinions based on what you hear on the forums and highsec rather than firsthand experience.

Returning space is not a big deal. It is politics. They had two options, return CFC space to another CFC entity, or burn bridges, lose it in a sightly longer period of time, and make a very powerful enemy. They intelligently returned the space.

When coalitions invade regions, it isn't one alliance doing the work. It is every member group. Space is generally split between alliances that did very well or don't have a "home" yet, but the space was conquered by every member of the coalition.

When a group leaves a coalition and returns their space to it, they're simply giving it to another entity that bled just as much for it as they did.


1) I know I don't know everything. Hence the reason I made a thread inquiring on the subject.
2) 4 months is plenty of time to see null sec for what it is: an oligarchy. Are you claiming differently? What exactly, in your eyes, would be the fate of a new alliance to null that refused to join a coalition?
3) You're a bit late explaining the Convicted situation, but thank you still.Any information is appreciated.


Plus what you said doesn't make much sense. If convicted helped CFC then why was ALL of their space taken? And why was ALL of the space given to GSF if GSF didn't do ALL of the work? Why wasn't it split between the remaining CFC members?


The CFC has two standing rules: 1) all members must participate in strategic ops and 2) you must remain stable and not give the other member alliances migraines.

Convicted was having problems with corp turnover (which was true) and was (allegedly) having leadership issues and were asked to leave


That's reasonable.

TY for further clarifying.

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Mon Diddies
Indigo Generation
#25 - 2013-02-25 01:49:15 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
I thought the remains of Li3 were going to that space.

Edit, ah well, they will have more room to install other CFC members.



its true. we were given to option... or i should say we were told to move there as our goon bosses told us to. however our corp decieded to stay in a real allaince and coalition. HBC #1 TEST alliance= BEST alliance

Dont believe anything you read, and only half of what you see. To be fair dont trust what you hear either.!!!!!!! TINFOIL ACTIVATE!!!!!!!!!
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-02-25 02:40:32 UTC
Mon Diddies wrote:
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
I thought the remains of Li3 were going to that space.

Edit, ah well, they will have more room to install other CFC members.



its true. we were given to option... or i should say we were told to move there as our goon bosses told us to. however our corp decieded to stay in a real allaince and coalition. HBC #1 TEST alliance= BEST alliance
~those evil goonies~

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