EVE General Discussion

Working as intended. Corp dropping/hopping during war is a valid tactic.

CONCORD tries to protect you from everyone else who doesn't pay to wardec you. Sounds like a good reason to still have them to me, because there are a lot of people out there who aren't valid targets to you.

Besides, when you pay for the wardec you don't necessarily know for sure what's going to happen to you when the war starts. They might come out guns blazing and annihilate you, making you look weak to other PVP corps when they look at your war history. They might receive a ton of ally requests from people in their defense pact or people who generally like them and blob you every time you come close to them. They might put a gigantic bounty on your corp, enough that people will want to wardec you to and chase you around for that money. That 50m you spent to wardec someone might cost you dearly.

None of these in-game mechanics brought to us in Retribution will ever be used to their fullest potential unless you make wardecs meaningful.

Part of EVE's stated goal at the beginning of its formation is they don't want life to be unbearable for more peaceful and unexperienced players (notice the word peaceful. Not just unexperienced). A corp war can very much do that for both. I can link you to the quote if you want. Though its an old quote its still something that shows in their design sometimes, such as war decs. They could easily do what you're asking in under an hour. So the question you should be asking yourself is if that's the way they were purely meant to be designed, why don't they. Answer? Because that's not the entire basis of their design despite it being what you want. Now I'm not saying there shouldn't be things to encourage them to stick around, but trying to claim what you believe in is the intended design when there is evidence against that? Not very well educated. You're welcome to your views, but I'd stop with the mind reading.

it always was completely worthless and that is the risk you take in targeting groups of players. if they have no skin in the game they can quite legitimately disband. if you wasted 50M on that then you should have done your homework better. perhaps you shouldn't target people because that's not what wardecs specify. maybe you should check their war history, see if they have POS up etc.

I mean if you actually want a fair fight. complain about people running away too much and that might come in to doubt.

Highsec would still be peaceful. Vastly more so than any other section or playstyle in the game. You just won't necessarily receive peace all of the time for free and you actually have to work towards it if you tend to do things that affect other people's gameplay. A lot less work involved compared to anywhere else, mind you.

You ask me why they haven't changed it yet. I say it's because it's coming soon because the Retribution expansion (the one about fixing crimewatch and wardecs) isn't over and done with yet, and it's only a matter of time before CCP listens to their playerbase.


In most cases they're not legitimately disbanding. They're disbanding to drop the wardec, then have all of their corp assets come back together in a new corp. There's fundamentally no difference between the two corps, they're using an unstoppable loophole (also known as an exploit) to evade the wardec.

For something that'd literally be copy, paste, adjust, I really doubt that's something they'd wait on.

Sounds like an exploit to me, unless you can tell me how I can prevent someone from duplicating their corp to evade a wardec.

And yes, human resources (the players in your corp) are corp assets. If they weren't corp assets, why would they be valid wardec targets?

All the months spent on balancing could be done in a couple of hours by some guy who can edit the game settings. It's not as easy to make a game or fix issues as you think it is, and usually the devs have other things on their plate to deal with too. It also doesn't help that the playerbase tries to cover this issue up because they think it's beneficial to them.

it's just a bit odd calling them assets unless you're trying to talk up the significance of their corp. it's just a group full of members with a name. And it's not very helpful insisting something is an exploit (corp hopping) when it clearly isn't considered such as it's hard to get advice on this bar asking on the forums, like the OP did.

my advice would be to stop hassling highsec nubs who don't want to fight you or swap tactics to ganking them which isn't considered an exploit either. clearly wardeccing them is a poor strategy if they don't want to fight you.

If it was completely unintended, it'd be considered an exploit by the staff. It isn't. You may not like it, but it wasn't on accident that people could jump ship to avoid wardecs.

Only 50m isk to force players out of corp, why didn't anyone tell me ?