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EvE is weird: Topic - PIRATES

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Orbital Dyke
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-02-24 15:32:27 UTC
The haulers are victims of there own stupidity and have payed the price of there idiocy and or ignorance of the threats that await them.
Hurtini Hilitari
Doomheim
#62 - 2013-02-24 15:32:41 UTC
Well Ivy.... I see you backtracking now on the real life thing now claiming you meant alias, but still, do you think that you can really link all accounts inextricably to one person?

What about multiple internet connections and machines? In a game like this, you won't stop spies, as they will find a way around whatever obstacles you place in their way.

And the only way you will cut down on awoxing is involving concord, which would be dumb. Corps should be able to punish those who misbehave, even in high sec. Players can always stay in NPC corps if they want less risk (hehe). Everyone has the chance to learn about mechanics before joining a player corp.

As for killing indys, well, I'd rather we were able to do that, than have them completely invulnerable, which would be seriously dumb.

What kind of unrealistic game do you want us to be playing?
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-02-24 15:38:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
ask RubyPorto
“What is happening in the mind of…”
“Now only if ALL accounts are binding towards a credit card , and upon request of the corp and authorization of the account holder , the person's name would be visible to the CEO”
“what one does when his true identity is anonymous reflects a lot on their true personality”

No, I'm asking you.

Quote:
you can always OPT out of providing your API key
So you're asking for something that is pointless and useless, then. That just makes it even better.


Ahh selectively quoting I love you

Ivy Romanova wrote:


The anonymity of EvE has this problem ...
An alternative would be to revamp the alt system , similar to the banking account .
You may have a saving account , a current account , a time deposit account, but in the end . Its down to the person behind it.
Can be an alias if you want.



Now , why did I bring comparison between reality and sandbox into this.
Thats because I believe your actions when they comes without any real life consequences and without any stake between your crimes and actions.
The only thing left standing between a good deed and a horrendous act is his own morality .
Thats why I suggested to REMOVE that sort of problem and bring order back to the system.
A person should be held accountable , not his toon.

Well have you ever seen a director of a reputable alliance who HAVE NOT provide his API to the CEO ?

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Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#64 - 2013-02-24 15:39:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomcio FromFarAway
It's amusing how OP tries to cover up his/her own stupidity by employing even more stupidity ( if that's even possible in this case ).Ugh

Fake Edit :
What's this?

You've been a naughty girlPirate
Admit it - you've been just trolling all this time as no one could possibly be that stupid.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-02-24 15:42:42 UTC
Hurtini Hilitari wrote:
Well Ivy.... I see you backtracking now on the real life thing now claiming you meant alias, but still, do you think that you can really link all accounts inextricably to one person?

What about multiple internet connections and machines? In a game like this, you won't stop spies, as they will find a way around whatever obstacles you place in their way.

And the only way you will cut down on awoxing is involving concord, which would be dumb. Corps should be able to punish those who misbehave, even in high sec. Players can always stay in NPC corps if they want less risk (hehe). Everyone has the chance to learn about mechanics before joining a player corp.

As for killing indys, well, I'd rather we were able to do that, than have them completely invulnerable, which would be seriously dumb.

What kind of unrealistic game do you want us to be playing?



ONE ROOT account PER person.
There are always way around a law , this won't be any different.
HOWEVER , the goal is to DISCOURAGE and RAISE the bar for those who are attempting such acts , so as to reduce the frequency.

You'll ALWAYS be able to do that , but its either in NULL SEC , where its pretty much FFA.
You trespass their town , their rules and I'm in no position to comment , but in HIGH SEC and LOW SEC , where its GOVERNMENT owned property , they are in NO morally just ground to shoot at indies.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-02-24 15:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
It's amusing how OP tries to cover up his/her own stupidity by employing even more stupidity ( if that's even possible in this case ).Ugh

Fake Edit :
What's this?

You've been a naughty girlPirate
Admit it - you've been just trolling all this time as no one could possibly be that stupid.


THAT was a blue ALT , which came into null WITHOUT telling us.


Do you seriously think IF a gate camping TACHY oracle on multifrequency want to KILL a freighter , it would be only doing 2000 dmg?
Thats not even 2 salvos.

I stopped the moment he declared his position as a director of a blue corp, but the fleet mate did not.
You can say that was one of the reason why I made this thread

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-02-24 15:45:59 UTC
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
It's amusing how OP tries to cover up his/her own stupidity by employing even more stupidity ( if that's even possible in this case ).Ugh

Fake Edit :
What's this?

You've been a naughty girlPirate
Admit it - you've been just trolling all this time as no one could possibly be that stupid.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!

Are you ******* kidding me!!!! hahahahhaha.


Be a hypocritical **** some more OP, please, that's just ******* hilarious!!!!!
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-02-24 15:47:33 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
It's amusing how OP tries to cover up his/her own stupidity by employing even more stupidity ( if that's even possible in this case ).Ugh

Fake Edit :
What's this?

You've been a naughty girlPirate
Admit it - you've been just trolling all this time as no one could possibly be that stupid.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!

Are you ******* kidding me!!!! hahahahhaha.


Be a hypocritical **** some more OP, please, that's just ******* hilarious!!!!!


Nope , we lost an ally because of that incident

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-02-24 15:47:43 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
It's amusing how OP tries to cover up his/her own stupidity by employing even more stupidity ( if that's even possible in this case ).Ugh

Fake Edit :
What's this?

You've been a naughty girlPirate
Admit it - you've been just trolling all this time as no one could possibly be that stupid.


THAT was a blue ALT , which came into null WITHOUT telling us.


Do you seriously think IF a gate camping TACHY oracle on multifrequency want to KILL a freighter , it would be only doing 2000 dmg?
Thats not even 2 salvos.

I stopped the moment he declared his position as a director of a blue corp, but the fleet mate did not.
You can say that was one of the reason why I made this thread

Rofl.

Shut up.

Hypocrit.

You start a thread basically condemning shooting indies, and you've got a ******* kill mail with you destroying a freighter.
That's being the level of extreme retardation.

So it's ok for you, but it's wrong for everyone else.

******* troll!
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#70 - 2013-02-24 15:48:03 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:


THAT was a blue ALT , which came into null WITHOUT telling us.


Do you seriously think IF a gate camping TACHY oracle on multifrequency want to KILL a freighter , it would be only doing 2000 dmg?
Thats not even 2 salvos.

I stopped the moment he declared his position as a director of a blue corp, but the fleet mate did not.
You can say that was one of the reason why I made this thread


This poor, honourable and God fearing industrial pilotShocked

You are a monsterEvil
...and a pirate at thatPirate
Hurtini Hilitari
Doomheim
#71 - 2013-02-24 15:48:45 UTC
If he was a blue alt, why you shoot him? you mean he was the alt of someone who is blue? so wasn't actually blue when you shot him?

Anyways, this is a risk you take when you make alts and don't tell everyone to blue them. It's his own fault you shot him.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-02-24 15:49:38 UTC
You particpated in destroying a freighter. It doesn't matter what the circumstances of it are, you made thread pretty much condemning the act of shooting industrialists.

Come on man!

Think about that for a second!
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-02-24 15:54:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
Hurtini Hilitari wrote:
If he was a blue alt, why you shoot him? you mean he was the alt of someone who is blue? so wasn't actually blue when you shot him?

Anyways, this is a risk you take when you make alts and don't tell everyone to blue them. It's his own fault you shot him.


Because as I've said , he told no one of his freighter alt travel plans .
We didn't know he was an alt until he was at half armor and dying quick .

So no , he wasn't set to blue . (Don't ask me why)

THAT was the wake up call for me .
I've been a pirate for almost a month now.
THAT was my revelation

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Hurtini Hilitari
Doomheim
#74 - 2013-02-24 15:56:49 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
I stopped the moment he declared his position as a director of a blue corp, but the fleet mate did not.
You can say that was one of the reason why I made this thread


Maybe your fleet mate didn't believe it. Guy could have been trying to get you to stop shooting him. But since you say you lost an ally because of this, I guess he must've been telling the truth after all Lol
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#75 - 2013-02-24 15:59:58 UTC
What the **** does it matter who or what he is! You started a thread putting down the act of shooitng industrialists, and you shoot industrialists.

The reasoning behind it is irrelevant. You did what you're condemning.


That's like condemning people for using pits to dog fight, and then you get caught using mastiffs, and your excuse is "it wasn't a pit".

GTFO.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-02-24 16:00:17 UTC
Hurtini Hilitari wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
I stopped the moment he declared his position as a director of a blue corp, but the fleet mate did not.
You can say that was one of the reason why I made this thread


Maybe your fleet mate didn't believe it. Guy could have been trying to get you to stop shooting him. But since you say you lost an ally because of this, I guess he must've been telling the truth after all Lol


we had him quadruple scrammed , webbed and bumped.
He wasn't going anywhere , not to mention he was at half armor.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-02-24 16:01:16 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
What the **** does it matter who or what he is! You started a thread putting down the act of shooitng industrialists, and you shoot industrialists.

The reasoning behind it is irrelevant. You did what you're condemning.


That's like condemning people for using pits to dog fight, and then you get caught using mastiffs, and your excuse is "it wasn't a pit".

GTFO.


I WAS WRONG!
OK!?

I MADE A MISTAKE!
and I want to RIGHT WHAT HAS BEEN WRONG!

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Emma d'Acques
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-02-24 16:02:29 UTC
Shooting "defenseless" haulers is a morally JUST action OP.
By killing haulers, thereby destroying some of their precious cargo, you deny corporations and/or alliances access to tools of destruction.
By applying violence to haulers, you are actually making EvE a safer place to live in!

I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example.

Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-02-24 16:18:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Clone 77777
I still think OP should just gtfo.

-Clearly doesnt understand the concept of EVE, or the mechanics.
-Clearly has no clue that lowsec areas are actually "owned" by entities much like null is, step into their grounds and they will probably (most likely) try to kill you. Just because they dont pay sov bills or rent doesnt change that.
-War Decs are for highsec, why would people waste ISK by war deccing EVERY entity in EVE cause they might come into their lowsec area? The way I see it, unless the navy or CONCORD removes the "pirates", the space is as much theirs as anyones.

And youre still saying we should be held accountable in real life for our ingame actions, the dumbest **** you can ever spew out.
BF3 is no different to EVE, youre on one team, Im on another, we're enemies. In EVE, youre not my friend, youre someone who, for all I know, is hauling new ships and mods to enemies of mine, maybe its even something really valueable. Youre my enemy, I shoot you, I sell the stuff I loot, make a profit, I won, you lost.

And to get back to the "official war decs must be the only way!!1" claim you made, I happen to live in lowsec, the groups around my little area are all my enemies, we ARE at war, we dont have any active war decs.
Get lost.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-02-24 16:18:28 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
What the **** does it matter who or what he is! You started a thread putting down the act of shooitng industrialists, and you shoot industrialists.

The reasoning behind it is irrelevant. You did what you're condemning.


That's like condemning people for using pits to dog fight, and then you get caught using mastiffs, and your excuse is "it wasn't a pit".

GTFO.


I WAS WRONG!
OK!?

I MADE A MISTAKE!
and I want to RIGHT WHAT HAS BEEN WRONG!


You were only wrong for starting the thread, not for shooting the frieghter. Blow MORE up for god sakes.

It's GOOD to blow up industrialists.
I tell you this as a fully dedicated industrialist myself.

Do not apologize for blowing up a freighter. YOU are my hero when you blow up an industrialist, YOU deserve a medal every time you do. YOU support the economy in a positive way.

Keep up the GOOD work.
Just don't ever make a thread condemning the act again, you've got it backwards. There is no reason for you to feel guilty.