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EvE is weird: Topic - PIRATES

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-02-24 11:05:05 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
*snipped inappropriate link* - CCP Eterne

But seriously , what kind of satisfaction do they get from killing indies who can't shoot back??
And most importantly , BLUE ALTS!
What is happening in the mind of the indy shooters and AWOXERS???

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#2 - 2013-02-24 11:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Ivy Romanova wrote:
WHY?

But seriously , what kind of satisfaction do they get from killing indies who can't shoot back??
And most importantly , BLUE ALTS!
What is happening in the mind of the indy shooters and AWOXERS???


Entertainment
Causing damage to your enemies
Profit
Delight in causing discord (a decent AWOXing romp will get corps kicked from alliances).

Take your pick

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-02-24 11:13:13 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Jules Wynnfield wrote:
[quote=March rabbit]*snipped*

don't agree. people ARE NOT NPC. they can use excuses "don't blame people, blame the game" but this is for stupid.
You always have options. And choice is your. Unless you are NPC.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#4 - 2013-02-24 11:14:05 UTC
Does the day have a vowel in it?
Do I want to ruin someone's day?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2013-02-24 11:18:59 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
March rabbit wrote:
Jules Wynnfield wrote:
*snipped*

don't agree. people ARE NOT NPC. they can use excuses "don't blame people, blame the game" but this is for stupid.
You always have options. And choice is your. Unless you are NPC.


I'm usually the most space-violent when I'm having a good day.
My parents were very good to me growing up.
Red Wings: Best Wings.

Welcome to EVE: Ganking your Hauler is the moral equivalent to taking a pawn in Chess.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-24 11:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
WHY?

But seriously , what kind of satisfaction do they get from killing indies who can't shoot back??
And most importantly , BLUE ALTS!
What is happening in the mind of the indy shooters and AWOXERS???


Entertainment
Causing damage to your enemies
Profit
Delight in causing discord (a decent AWOXing romp will get corps kicked from alliances).

Take your pick


The anonymity of EvE has this problem ...
An alternative would be to revamp the alt system , similar to the banking account .
You may have a saving account , a current account , a time deposit account, but in the end . Its down to the person behind it.
Can be an alias if you want.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2013-02-24 11:20:00 UTC
Industrials can have candy inside?

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-24 11:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
RubyPorto wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
[quote=Jules Wynnfield]*snipped*


I'm usually the most space-violent when I'm having a good day.
My parents were very good to me growing up.
Red Wings: Best Wings.

Welcome to EVE: Ganking your Hauler is the moral equivalent to taking a pawn in Chess.


Hauler ganking ...
Shooting at someone helpless.
I can hear your peniz deflating

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#9 - 2013-02-24 11:21:51 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Hauler ganking ...
Shooting at someone helpless.
I can hear your peniz deflating


*Who chooses to make themselves helpless. And a Pinata.

Important part, that.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-02-24 11:22:16 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Welcome to EVE: Ganking your Hauler is the moral equivalent to taking a pawn in Chess.
You're seriously underestimating how devastating it is to lose a pawn in chess…
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2013-02-24 11:23:48 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
The anonymity of EvE has this problem ...
Now only if ALL accounts are binding towards a credit card , and upon request of the corp and authorization of the account holder , the person's name would be visible to the CEO ....


You're suggesting that you should be able to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?

And you think the gankers have issues... Roll

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-02-24 11:24:10 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Hauler ganking ...
Shooting at someone helpless.
I can hear your peniz deflating


*Who chooses to make themselves helpless. And a Pinata.

Important part, that.


You know.... what one does when his true identity is anonymous reflects a lot on their true personality.
Do you believe in times of anarchy , one can do whatever he wants ,including pillaging , **** and extortion .... and the one with the biggest stick makes the rules?

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-02-24 11:24:30 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Jules Wynnfield wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
- bad day at school.
- teacher punished for bad homework.
- parents didn't buy lollipop.
- gf has "special days"
- add your variant


You forgot to add:
'Welcome to EVE, have a nice day"...

don't agree. people ARE NOT NPC. they can use excuses "don't blame people, blame the game" but this is for stupid.
You always have options. And choice is your. Unless you are NPC.


I'm usually the most space-violent when I'm having a good day.
My parents were very good to me growing up.

yea. i know many people whose parents "were very good".... Cool

psychology can tell a lot about it

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Emma d'Acques
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-02-24 11:25:39 UTC
***** and giggles?

I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-24 11:26:15 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Hauler ganking ...
Shooting at someone helpless.
I can hear your peniz deflating


*Who chooses to make themselves helpless. And a Pinata.

Important part, that.

this is why i say "people and NPC"

blame the game, not NPC (c) NPC

replace "NPC" with "players". see any difference? Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2013-02-24 11:27:28 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
You know.... what one does when his true identity is anonymous reflects a lot on their true personality.
Do you believe in times of anarchy , one can do whatever he wants ,including pillaging , **** and extortion .... and the one with the biggest stick makes the rules?


I believe that, when playing chess against someone else who is playing chess, I am perfectly within my rights to take their pawn.

I believe that, when playing a game, you can play that game however you like within the bounds of the rules of the game. If you don't like the rules of EVE, or cannot notice the distinction between an internet spaceship game and real life, I would suggest you not play EVE.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-02-24 11:29:31 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
The anonymity of EvE has this problem ...
Now only if ALL accounts are binding towards a credit card , and upon request of the corp and authorization of the account holder , the person's name would be visible to the CEO ....


You're suggesting that you should be able to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?

And you think the gankers have issues... Roll


Actually no.
I think every person should be held responsible for what he does.
That anonymity and that severance from one's real life identity destroyed that system and those who are intrinsically predators on the weak but are held back by social pressure in real life unleashes their ugly face on the honorable and those trying to make a honest living.

THAT must change.

You will ALWAYS have the option to opt out of such scheme, but if you're not willing to face the consequences and the legacy you'll left behind from your actions.

I say you're a coward

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#18 - 2013-02-24 11:37:56 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Actually no.
I think every person should be held responsible for what he does.
That anonymity and that severance from one's real life identity destroyed that system and those who are intrinsically predators on the weak but are held back by social pressure in real life unleashes their ugly face on the honorable and those trying to make a honest living.

THAT must change.

You will ALWAYS have the option to opt out of such scheme, but if you're not willing to face the consequences and the legacy you'll left behind from your actions.

I say you're a coward


So... you're saying that what I do in a game should have an impact on my real life? And you're suggesting that that impact come from other players in the game.

In what way is that not asking for the ability to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?


Remember, and I feel like you need this told to you multiple times (possibly by a licensed psychologist), EVE Online is a game, in the exact same way Chess is a game. Actions in EVE have the exact same moral significance as actions in a game of Chess.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kathern Aurilen
#19 - 2013-02-24 11:44:37 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
The anonymity of EvE has this problem ...
Now only if ALL accounts are binding towards a credit card , and upon request of the corp and authorization of the account holder , the person's name would be visible to the CEO ....


You're suggesting that you should be able to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?

And you think the gankers have issues... Roll
No... I would rather harass ur money making alt if u like picking on indys

No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!

Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-24 11:44:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
RubyPorto wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Actually no.
I think every person should be held responsible for what he does.
That anonymity and that severance from one's real life identity destroyed that system and those who are intrinsically predators on the weak but are held back by social pressure in real life unleashes their ugly face on the honorable and those trying to make a honest living.

THAT must change.

You will ALWAYS have the option to opt out of such scheme, but if you're not willing to face the consequences and the legacy you'll left behind from your actions.

I say you're a coward


So... you're saying that what I do in a game should have an impact on my real life? And you're suggesting that that impact come from other players in the game.

In what way is that not asking for the ability to harass people in real life over what happens in a game?


Remember, and I feel like you need this told to you multiple times (possibly by a licensed psychologist), EVE Online is a game, in the exact same way Chess is a game. Actions in EVE have the exact same moral significance as actions in a game of Chess.


Not exactly.
What I am suggesting is accountability , the PERSON behind the toon should be responsible for the acts , precarious liability should be exercised .
THATS the only way order can be resumed .

An alternative would be to revamp the alt system , similar to the banking account .
You may have a saving account , a current account , a time deposit account, but in the end . Its down to the person behind it.
Can be an alias if you want.

Combat in low sec is NOT a problem, but dishonorable acts is.
EvE is a sandbox , so no mechanism should STOP you from doing such, but as it is a SANDBOX, the person should face the consequences

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