Intergalactic Summit

And I assume you have great arguments to share with us for holding such views and making these claims, pilot?

I especially want to hear your smashing arguments for this wonderfully empty line "All empires are a scam." that you saw fit to share with us.

To be honest, freedom of speech is free and all, but if you hate it this much, the road to unregulated, null space is not hard to find. And if you like it enough to stick around and live in Villore, of all places, you might want to change your tone a little bit - the Federation don't work on a "love us unquestioningly or GTFO" stance, you can find some middle ground between blind devotion (never a good thing) and abandoning the nation all-together.



Oh, it ended quite well, actually. It was pleasantly surprising, if I may say that myself.



Pure slander. None of us know why that concert was raided, indeed I have not even heard who was playing or what the lyrics were, or of any specific people that was there. Claiming that it was raided by special forces soldiers because the message was considered bad is an empty claim, as well as the same as saying that the SDII are actively opposing freedom of expression and free speech.

You don't get to make such claims with credibility without some evidence, Anslo. Do you have anything for us all that we have not seen yet, regarding this event?



This. Wolfhammer, this naiveté does not suit you. The Federation has never been perfect, despite the hard work from our various citizens aiming for that goal. It's an endless road of constant progress.

War however can shift one's priorities around. Sadly, as much as you, me or anyone else may not like the SDII or their actions, right now they are a needed entity in the Federation. If you are angry about that, direct it at the guilty party that created this situation to begin with.

Speaking of the guilty party...

My lord, Bloodbird, I just realized that I have never once seen you actually refer to someone by a name or callsign. You always just assign a title based on their allegiance, thereby allowing you to disavow any semblance of humanity in your ideological opponents.

It is no wonder I have never seen you argue in good faith, you've actively dehumanized everyone you disagree with!

You merely disagree with him, yet you refer to him as a Provist.

I am not even sure that's true. I wonder if you even know from provists.

My you make a lot of noise.

As surely as you have the right to do so, I have the right to ignore you. I didn't bother to read it.

Until someone tries to put a gun to my head, I will keep doing whatever I please. Real liberty is not needing permission and acceptance, and unlike your perception, does not require fealty.

I owe you a small thanks, Sansha - my intel was out-dated and Pilot Tuulinen is not enrolled in the State Protectorate anymore, thus he is not a Provist, unless he is officially a member of the CPD. I will have to check up on that at a later time.

So thank you, Sansha. When the Empires burn down your "Nation" once more, I will have to see if we can't spare you.

For last.



Your State saw fit to start a war. This forced the Federation onto the war-path, and as you can likely see, a Federation at war is a very different entity than one at peace. The Presidency of Jacus Roden, the creation of the SDII, the suffering across the lenght and breath of Placid and Black Rise, among other places, none of these would have taken place if your people had stayed at home and left us be.

Citizens protest needed means enacted to protect them and curtail enemy movement and internal corruption. They have a right to be angry, and I have a right to tell them where that anger belongs - yelling at the symptom does not help when the cause still exists, and that cause is the State's war with us. In short, your people have directly altered and, in the views of many citizens, threaten our way of life.



I have not "required fealty" of you, and indeed, you do not need my permission to voice any argument you wish. I have however, asked you to explain why you see fit to make sweeping arguments against the Federation and all the other empires by, among other things, calling them all scams - I have asked you this because I do not see where such a belief comes from.

You see, where I am from people don't make such accusations without having though their arguments through at least a little, so I foolishly assumed you could back up your claims and view-points with something solid, like good arguments for why you make such claims.

But by all means Pilot Wolfhammer, ignore me. Ignore any other arguments against your claims and keep saying whatever you want about anything and anyone. I'll simply have a conversation with someone else, someone who can educate me about the basis for the beliefs they hold and the arguments they make.

I understand sir, thank you. How long do you imagine your people will prosecute the defense of your homes against us, and at what point do you imagine that concessions will become a viable option to pursue that peace?

Indeed. I do my best to ignore your worthless self as well, if possible.



I do not honestly know. If I did I would tell you, Scherazad.

It depends on a large number of variables, many of them what transpires in the State in the days, weeks months and years to come, and many depends on factors internal to the Federated Union, such as Presidential policy, the actions of the SDII, the reactions of the citizenry, and much else, as well as many factors external to both Federation and State, such as the Empire's involvement.

While one can hope for a resolution in mutual favor sooner rather than later, I am, sadly for myself, more of a realist. I suspect it will be several years more at least before we see even a hint of an end, one way or another.

It is worth noting that five out of eight State megacorporations do not support the occupation of Caldari Prime.

It has been a long day so forgive me if I sound a bit cross, and forgive my ignorance but "supply lines" to Caldari Prime? What supply lines?

I would also like to know why, as most Caldari alive were born elsewhere, you continue collectively to call Caldari Prime "Home".

Now I know it makes for good press, and burnishes the shine on your ever so polished victim-hood, but please.

Drink less quafe-aid, read more history.

Peaceful and freedom loving my ass.

"It all started when a Gallente exploration ship happened upon one of the hidden Caldari colonies. When the Federation Senate learned of this they demanded a full-scale investigation into the matter and that all hidden Caldari colonies should immediately been put under Federation authority."

You started the whole conflict with the Caldari ... and now you're blaming them for winning. Boo hoo.

"Those within the Federation believing that peace talks should be initiated instead of an invasion didn’t dare speak up for fear of being branded cowards or, worse, traitors; the Gallente war machine grinded into gear."

Amazing how little has changed even after two centuries. Oh wait, I guess something have changed... they no longer get "branded cowards" ... now they just ... "disappear."