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A few questions regarding exploration

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Rose Oberhofer
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-02-23 21:32:11 UTC
Hi.
I'm trying to get into exploration, but i got trouble finding exploration sites.

I know how it works and all, I've read plenty tutorials about which skills I should be training, what ship I should be using, how to scan (I have no problems getting my scan results to 100%).

I know that exploration is mostly luck based, but with ~2 hours of scanning I usually only find 1-2 sites I'm able to loot at my low level. It's mostly just "unknown" sites. Now I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly, jumping through random systems, approaching the systems sun and starting to scan.

My actual questions would be:

  • Am I doing this correctly or am I missing something?
  • Are there locations (regions/constellations) in highsec (which is the only think I'm currently comfortable doing) that I should go to to get better results?
  • Is there some kind of market where I can sell waypoints of sites I find, but can't make use of myself (for example ladars)?
  • I'm thinking of joining a corp. Does that make sense for me when focusing mostly on highsec scanning? Would this benefit me or the corp in any way?
  • Are there any general tipps that the usual tutorial doesn't go into, or any (third party?) tools that could help me scan more efficiently?
  • Any insight on where to set up my "homebase"? The starmap is pretty intimidating and apart from "this is highsec - this is lowsec" i feel pretty lost :)

Thanks in advance!
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-02-23 22:20:48 UTC
Maybe go out into less populated areas? There's a filter on the map for "average pilots in system".
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-02-23 23:17:34 UTC
Hi Rose

Glad to hear you're giving exploration a go. Its tough at the start but if you're like me you'll be hooked once you made your first big 100m+ ISK find.
Now to your questions
-your basic approach is correct. Just don't bother scanning 0.9 or 1.0 systems, they'll only have wormholes which I assume you can't exploit yet. Also avoid newbie systems and trade hubs. Anywhere else is fine. Doesn't seem to be any major difference in sig quantity or quality between 0.5 and 0.8.
-there's two main factors in picking an exploration area. One is what kind of items you want to find and what rats you don't mind fighting. IE if you explore in Gallente space you'll be fighting Serpentis and getting a lot of faction Afterburners, resistance plates and reppers. Explore in Caldari space and you'll fight Guristas and get faction shield boosters. Second consideration is how many other explorers are operating in the same area, the fewer the better. Obviously I can't tell you which those might be, you'll just have to experiment. What I ended up doing was exploring every constellation in Gallente highsec, writing down what sites I'd found, and focusing on going back to the best areas.
-I've never had much luck selling bookmarks of wormholes, ladars, grav sites etc. You'd kinda want personal contact with someone to build up trust, since there's no way to prove that the bookmark you give them actually contains what you say it does.
-Main advantage of joining an exploration corp would be co-ordinating your searches so you're not all covering the same ground, passing bookmarks for sites you can't exploit yourself to others who can and vice versa, and just general chitchat to relieve the boredom of going 2 hours without finding anything, which you do get now and then. Also it'd probably help if you had a friend in a combat ship to run the sites while you do the probing, if you don't have two accounts.
-can't help you with scanning tutorial videos, I'm kinda self-taught and probably not as good as the "probe mission runners down in 1 scan cycle" crowd.
-Once you've done your research and picked a home constellation to explore regularly ,just pick any station. Drop off your loot, collect your ammo, reship between frigate/cruiser/BC as needed to fit into the sites. Because of reasons I mentioned above, it shouldn't be too close to a market hub. Also be careful bringing your pricier faction loot finds back to market, people can and will kill you to get shinies in a slow or badly tanked ship. For navigation purposes I used the F11 minimap to the righthand side and just focused on exploring one constellation at a time, felt less intimidating than seeing the wole universe at once.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#4 - 2013-02-24 03:54:20 UTC  |  Edited by: KaarBaak
Rose Oberhofer wrote:


My actual questions would be:

  • Am I doing this correctly or am I missing something?

  • Seems ok. If you're "getting to green" you've got the hard part covered.

  • Are there locations (regions/constellations) in highsec (which is the only think I'm currently comfortable doing) that I should go to to get better results?

  • Lower sec is better...try getting into 0.6 and 0.5. Also, if you want to start working on your lowsec skills, get a covops ship for scanning and practice in highsec: jump in and get off gate (a whole separate set of skills), get to a safe, deploy probes, cloak, proceed to scan...scanning in lowsec is all about speed/not sitting in one place too long

  • Is there some kind of market where I can sell waypoints of sites I find, but can't make use of myself (for example ladars)?

  • No.

  • I'm thinking of joining a corp. Does that make sense for me when focusing mostly on highsec scanning? Would this benefit me or the corp in any way?

  • Joining a player corps is ALWAYS a good idea. Even a small corp. You can team up with a buddy or two and have one scanning down sites and the other in a combat ship to run the site.

  • Are there any general tipps that the usual tutorial doesn't go into, or any (third party?) tools that could help me scan more efficiently?

  • Scanning is scanning. Once you have it down, you should be able to "get to green" within 5-7 min of warp-in. Get away from trade and mission hubs/routes.

  • Any insight on where to set up my "homebase"? The starmap is pretty intimidating and apart from "this is highsec - this is lowsec" i feel pretty lost :)

  • You have to find your 'nest.' The location that has 3-4 good lowsec (meaning 0.5) systems side-by-side...then decide whether your're going to run stuff a few jumps for storage, or just accumulate in each system and then periodically cleanup.


Thanks in advance!


You're on the right track. Are you running the combat sites?

Dum Spiro Spero

Andres Talas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-02-24 12:02:33 UTC
Takseen wrote:

For navigation purposes I used the F11 minimap to the righthand side and just focused on exploring one constellation at a time, felt less intimidating than seeing the wole universe at once.


Just on that, if you'd like some flat 2D maps, try googling 'EvE maps ombey' and 'EvE maps dotlan' and seeing which one you prefer.
Rose Oberhofer
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-24 23:11:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Rose Oberhofer
Thanks to all of you for the insightful answers! I now have a much better idea of how I should be approaching this. I now understand the ingame map much better and know what to look for for more profitable scanning sites. thanks to you guys, i finally felt comfortable laying out a skill plan for the next 5 months and remapping my atributes accordingly.

i've also applied to a corp, as i now feel ready to join one.

KaarBaak wrote:

You're on the right track. Are you running the combat sites?


i only run magnetometric and radar sites, as most tutorials i've read said that it's not worth doing combat sites. do you think i should do those sites?
Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
#7 - 2013-02-24 23:22:32 UTC
Rose Oberhofer wrote:
Thanks to all of you for the insightful answers! I now have a much better idea of how I should be approaching this. I now understand the ingame map much better and know what to look for for more profitable scanning sites. thanks to you guys, i finally felt comfortable laying out a skill plan for the next 5 months and remapping my atributes accordingly.

i've also applied to a corp, as i now feel ready to join one.

KaarBaak wrote:
[quote=Rose Oberhofer]
You're on the right track. Are you running the combat sites?


i only run magnetometric and radar sites, as most tutorials i've read said that it's not worth doing combat sites. do you think i should do those sites?


Combat sites are where you get your chance for faction loot or deadspace modules, and most of the ones in high sec require very little combat skill and take maybe 5 minutes at most to clear. You can skip grav and ladar sites if you aren't in a mining-friendly corp that can quickly clear them out.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#8 - 2013-02-25 04:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
Combat sites are very much worth it, but the setup needed to take them is very much different than with a mag or radar plex.

Mag/radar site combat is easy. Hisec mags/radars can be taken in a probing frigate. In lowsec they can be taken in an AF/t1 cruiser. Hisec combat sites on the other hand are going to (depending on the site) going to require anywhere from an AF to a battlecruiser, and the lowsec combat sites sometimes give my Gila (pirate faction cruiser) problems.

Combat sites take more time to complete (unless you're using ridiculous overkill like a t3 cruiser in a hisec plex) but generally are worth individually more than the hisec sites. Furthermore, you won't be able to do any of them in your probing ship. You'll either need to get a separate combat ship, or probe with a dedicated combat ship (which will make probing much slower)


Regarding a home: You want to set up in a group of easily-accessible systems that is not very well-populated. If you find a place off the beaten path, then you're far more likely to find sites without competition. Don't try to explore 3 jumps from Jita.
Nicky Scars
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-02-26 02:27:20 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:


Mag/radar site combat is easy. Hisec mags/radars can be taken in a probing frigate.


Not all of them. I just started exploration and first radar site I found (hisec) was "Local Guristas Shattered Life-Support Unit" Among other ships there were 3 battleships too.

Well, combat was easy, but I was flying Drake.