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This has probably been answered previously but,

if I have a Nyx sitter, sitting in a Nyx who has, say, jump fuel conservation 1... what happens on patch day?

Guessing I can log him in but once he ejects from the ship, he can't get back in until he trains fuel4/cal3 etc. ?

The question has been answered...extensively...multiple times.

And you should really look up the meaning of 'i.e.', i.e. you have no clue what it means.

How about reading just the dev posts then?

You know you can click the blue bar on a dev post to be taken to the next one, right?

Ok lol, nvmd. Missed this on my first read-through :P

I have a question...

After the change it is stated that if I could fly a ship I will still be able to fly it...

Now this is the scenario post change: the ship I am flying requires additional skills. I can still fly it and all is good. I get podded. What happens now? Will the new clone be able to fly the same ship or will it require to train the missing skills?

It might seem a stupid question but unless I get a response I am not totally comfortable.

I have not read through all 47 pages of posts but here is my main concern.

(Concern) My concern is this, with the changes to command ships, as far as the ships themselves they are fine. However the mind links (Implants) are what comes into concern. As it is now the command link bonuses are a focused slot 10 implant and only boost one of the four total but with the new changes we are now bonuses on two of the 4. This means we are in need of a change in the way the implant works. Maybe make the implant boost all or make it boost the two effective that the command ships. Having a focused implant worked when we had focused command ships, now that they have split



(Personal grip) The change in ship requirements are making many training for everything shorter, despite what CCP is saying
I can train into and effectively fly every ship faster (well I could if I couldn't fly them all already). This is irritating but certainer not my primary concern but for that, it is rather irritating my over 65 million skill points don't count for nearly as much as they use to. I am all for helping people specialize quicker but do that through t1 ships and let them work into t2 later on. They did pretty well accomplish that mission with the change to t1 ship balancing and terricide.

Leave the t2 ship and capital ship requirements alone!

http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64158/1/SkillFreighter.jpg
No. As you can see on the picture above, you only need "Acvanced Spaceship Command" at 1 to fly the Providence. With the changes you need to train ist to V to inject the Freighter-Skill (which CCP schould really look after), but to sit into a ship, you only need the Skill in the top

To be ignored

I like your post, because it contains your thoughts in such a constructive manner.

You say many true things, but I do disagree with you on the Command Ship requirements and give CCP my full support for them, because the 4 general skills (not link skills) bonuses are useful for all boosters, because sometimes you cannot field all of the command ships and thus characters with the correspondent skills. If I boost Shield fleets I also help out if someone dips into armor, if I boost armor I give my logies possibly a second more to react. More agility is always helpful. More targeting range is perhaps a bit redundant but helps in certain e-war situations. Maybe sensor strength would have been better? Is already in the Leadership skill, though.

There are many posts agreeing with you on the Recon requirements, which are very random (actually CCP added to the discussion if you want to click through the blue arrows in the CCP staff pics). I like to add that I believe Force and Combat Recons should have split requirements. Cloaking and e-war for Force Recons of course. For Combat Recons, e-war and something else I could not know without having flown them. But I trust many of others will have good ideas.

I also agree with you on freighter's prereqs: Please CCP, make a clean cut here and move on.

I disagree with you about the Industrial skill, while the sound of it suggests that it could be a requirement for anything having to do with ressource gathering and converting, the only ship that comes to mind even remotely making use of the skill's actual bonuses is the Rorqual (although i do not know if that is really the case), so it basicly is only a useless time sink - something I had the impression CCP wanted to remove. This is why I believe the Industry skill should not be used as prereq for any ship (but maybe the Rorqual, if it makes use of it, then again it might not need additional training time).

Now about reimbursement stuff: While it still kind of sucks to have skill levels not being a prereq anymore on a personal level for various reasons, looking at the overall scheme of things I would prefer if CCP just made a clean cut, have prereqs for old and new players the same and ditch their "what you could fly before you will after" theme (which e.g. stopped CCP to make freighter 5 a prereq for JF, because they would need to reimburse minimum 32 days worth of skillpoints) . I believe this to be much better for the longterm health of EVE, what actually changed my mind on my reimbursement stance.

Yeah, I guess people would be pissed short term. But long term health seems more important to me. And the need to retrain would not disable people to fly stuff - and thus detract health - if notified in time.

Especially now that the new prereqs are quite useful and most people have them trained or get additional use for the additional training anyway.