EVE General Discussion

City of heroes, the day it released, had a nifty little feature that would spawn mobs in a zone, near you, based on your level.

Go into a zone that had level 10-15 mobs, kill a bunch of those lvl 10 mobs when you're level 15, and the new mobs will spawn at a higher level.

I really don't understand why CCP doesn't have rats spawning based on the people in a belt. 5 exhumers in a belt, and oh the horror, 3 NPC frigates that combined can't kill a mach that is fit properly show up.

They should spawn harder mobs if miners sit in a belt long enough. If other games could do this when they released, around the same time EVE released, there's no reason that CCP can't do it.

Where does CCP bill EVE as "cold and harsh", but only when another player actually wants to lose isk suicide ganking you in high sec.

And given some of the changes recently that have made suicide ganking far less desirable, and according them drastically increased the number of people mining in high sec, it would make a lot of sense for CCP to beef up the rats to be a viable threat to players.

The first thing you should have done when you started to play this game was throw every idea you had about MMOs out the window, because it leads you to say ignorant things like this:

Rats are the reason miners never tank their ships. The odds of getting ganked are so incredibly low that it's a waste to tank your ship. You load it with MLU's, drop a couple of drones that you'll only ever lose when you forget to return them, and you're good.

This is why miners never gave a **** when people told them how to fit a hulk. This is why people who explained how to tank the hulk never understood why the miners wouldn't listen. People expected them to fit a ship for that .00001% chance someone might actually gank them; while that other 99.999% of the time they're making less isk because they're not mining as efficiently.

I really dont see how what i said was ignorant, personally to deny it is ignorance...

There are 101 scenarios I could list, ultimately it comes down to this, High end players do not want to do menial tasks, they rely on Miners and PVEers to do it for them to fund there campaigns. That is a fact of life not just this game....

So lets say all PVEers are cast from the game, the game is made unplayable for them, so they leave .Now noone is mining your ORE, noone is making your ammo.....What do you do, you start to Mine the Ore and make the ammo......You become a PVEer....

There is nothing ignorant about what i said at all....Bottom line is PVEers need PVPers and PVPers need PVEers, irrelevant of how ridiculous or ignorant PVPers think a comment like that is, or not.

Eve is not some major mystery that noone knows about or some Limited edition MMO that is unheard of like some think it is, Its 10 years old, and has been done before, Sandbox is nothing new at all. Weve seen it ,played it, watched it come and go in many forms.

One fact is absolutely true, Every single player that starts this game EVER, was a PVEer for a period of time. I odnt care if you joined the game and skipped all the tutorials went straight into a Corp in a war and died, at some point you mined an asteroid, at some point you killed rats in a belt and at some point you did a mission, Everyone here is a PVEer.....Like it or not :-)

When you mine minerals you are competing in Market PVP. When you undock you make yourself a valid target for PVP. You don't live in a bubble when you "PVE", and your actions have consequences. Every single player in this game is a PVPer, whether they like it or not :-)

And those high end PVP players would purchase mining barges and start mining away and producing ammo if it become worthwhile to do so. Stating that no one would mine or produce goods if players like you don't do it is an opinion based in total ignorance of market forces. The free market is a wonderful thing.

No, it most certainly is CCP's job.

Sandbox does not mean a game devoid of developer created content. It never has, nor should it ever.

Face of mankind was that kind of game, it got sold like twice. Because people don't like games that have no content.

UO wasn't devoid of content. It didn't require people to "make their own fun".

This whole "it's a sandbox, you make your own content" is a bunch of utter bullshit.
Being able to make your own content does not mean that's the ONLY content you can get. It's still a ******* game, and the developers are still required to provide complelling and fun things to do that will allow players to create emergent content.

I don't understand you guys that are against improved PvE content. As if EVE doesn't already have a shitload of PvE content in it, which it does, but the AI and difficulty (read: rediculously easy) makes it dull and unfun for a L.OT of people.



Just for something to break a little of the monotony, I've been doing missions the past few days. Just a couple, not really grinding or trying to make isk or anything. Just doing it to alleviate a little boredom; it's been awful.

You ******* people keep seem to be against EVERYTHING. You guys don't want CCP to do anything that isn't flying in space, but don't want them to add any new and interesting PvE content that is actually challenging.

It's like EVE's community is comprized almost mostly of people who bot and they don't want that distrupted.

EVE is not a shallow PvP game, but it seems that's all some of you want.

EVE isn't dying, but it's not taking on a bunch of new people either. We've been sitting with the same playerbase for a while now, and the only reason they got to the 450k mark had nothing to do with us and everything to do with a server we don't play on, located in China.

You "all pvp" crowd are as bad for EVE as the risk averse pussies who are afraid to lose stuff. Both groups are horrible customers, that if CCP listened to, would destroy EVE.

CCP doesn't need to waste time coding new AI. I would be happy to do all that if they made Concord able to be killed like they used to be.

Actually they have a team tasked with PvE content. They are the ones who changed the A.I. of NPCs recently. Its not a waste of time. It is what I pay CCP for. Maintain, improve, and develop all aspects of EVE. ALL aspects. Not just a few certain things.

I agree. At least in 0.5-07. At least.....difficulty of combating concord should scale in measure with the security of the system as it does now with their response time.

AWESOME idea... this way miners could no longer complain about ganking because NPCs do it too ! and it would become a norm to fly with protection in eve ! SWEET idea !