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CCP is not the God of EVE ... stop over buffnerfing

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SoOza N'GasZ
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Ethereal Dawn
#21 - 2013-02-23 03:25:07 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

CCP play Jove, so in lore, they are LITERALLY the gods of ew eden, just an FYI, being the devs with explicit be-all-end-all in developmental decisions doesnt hurt either,.


shame

Legba
Iminent Penance
Your Mom's Boyfriends
#22 - 2013-02-23 10:16:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Iminent Penance
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Hurricane nerfing is a Sin.

first off whats the point in buying different ships if they are all pretty much equal within a tier..... just because of the race we chose at the beginning of the game?

And why cant we in balancing terms simply respect eve for what it is (to an extent that still works of course) without god constantly changing epic things that where for years, into completely medicore soso bits of metal?

The epicness of now nerfed ships where what defined that part of eve ... ccp is constantly working to make eve flat in my opinion.

I find it really disturbing that eve is subject to constant buffing. I dont like ccp 'constantly' intervening with 'working' things because they kind of made eve what it was..... in a way if they want to be sincere in an artistic way then they have to respect an environments flaws as well as its strengths. This would need to be done in order to give eve credibility as a fictional but artisticly and immersively seen real world or universe. (in order to enjoy lord of the rings or alien, u have to believe its real for the duration of the film.

real world places also are not always perfectly balanced.

i agree this intervention makes sense yet it kinda makes eve a little less eve and a little more space simulation.

and i am sort of paying to play eve.... i mean.... it began as a place with hardly any rules... *small tear*

I honestly have to say that this is really turning me off eve.


If you want to fix this, do like goons, and get hired by ccp to break the game for yourself/your friends as *you* see it.

Otherwise GLHF convincing the company to give a damn about a single opinion, or logical suggestion.

Ever.

PS: you might have hope if you convince a few thousand people to go al queda all over jita, they seem to listen to whoever does that if done in large enough numbers


SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

CCP play Jove, so in lore, they are LITERALLY the gods of ew eden, just an FYI, being the devs with explicit be-all-end-all in developmental decisions doesnt hurt either,.


shame


Jove aren't gods, according to eve lore, just the most advanced technological race who sepaerated after the eve gate wormhole collapse, and later whooped the ass of amarr when amarr stepped up to them.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#23 - 2013-02-23 10:43:38 UTC
The OP doesn't like balance.

Too bad.

The Tears Must Flow
Musca Sklir
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-02-23 10:59:17 UTC
i agree and think you have a point. a find eve being dumed down and turned into something i more and more dislike. tiericide change to the flagging system, duelling yeah...
there's not to much point in trying to overbalance ships, let alone ships from one class and tier.
seldom, really seldom, you will see one class digging it out against each other.
you have bombers dealing cruisers, t3's and caps dealing with battleships, destroyers with frigs... every class a class that can be setup as an ideal counter for another. thats what you should balance around not make the ship of a class to be rather the same.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#25 - 2013-02-23 11:10:52 UTC
Iminent Penance wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Hurricane nerfing is a Sin.

first off whats the point in buying different ships if they are all pretty much equal within a tier..... just because of the race we chose at the beginning of the game?

And why cant we in balancing terms simply respect eve for what it is (to an extent that still works of course) without god constantly changing epic things that where for years, into completely medicore soso bits of metal?

The epicness of now nerfed ships where what defined that part of eve ... ccp is constantly working to make eve flat in my opinion.

I find it really disturbing that eve is subject to constant buffing. I dont like ccp 'constantly' intervening with 'working' things because they kind of made eve what it was..... in a way if they want to be sincere in an artistic way then they have to respect an environments flaws as well as its strengths. This would need to be done in order to give eve credibility as a fictional but artisticly and immersively seen real world or universe. (in order to enjoy lord of the rings or alien, u have to believe its real for the duration of the film.

real world places also are not always perfectly balanced.

i agree this intervention makes sense yet it kinda makes eve a little less eve and a little more space simulation.

and i am sort of paying to play eve.... i mean.... it began as a place with hardly any rules... *small tear*

I honestly have to say that this is really turning me off eve.


If you want to fix this, do like goons, and get hired by ccp to break the game for yourself/your friends as *you* see it.

Otherwise GLHF convincing the company to give a damn about a single opinion, or logical suggestion.

Ever.

PS: you might have hope if you convince a few thousand people to go al queda all over jita, they seem to listen to whoever does that if done in large enough numbers


SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

CCP play Jove, so in lore, they are LITERALLY the gods of ew eden, just an FYI, being the devs with explicit be-all-end-all in developmental decisions doesnt hurt either,.


shame


Jove aren't gods, according to eve lore, just the most advanced technological race who sepaerated after the eve gate wormhole collapse, and later whooped the ass of amarr when amarr stepped up to them.



no need there are many people who think like me and ccp knows this they are not stupid . if the dont change it then they have a reason to. i dont really care if they do i just want to voice my opinion really because i am an artist myself and i would simply love to infuse eve with a lot of great looking and feeling content.

If it gets too bad ill just go play star citizen. its not really a problem for me.

allthough i think its still ok at the moment.

im just saying:

eve its starting to feel soft and smooshy

Legba
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#26 - 2013-02-23 14:37:29 UTC
Quote:
CCP is not the God of EVE


This statement is false

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#27 - 2013-02-23 19:44:51 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Quote:
CCP is not the God of EVE


This statement is false


you go do your thing bro.

So then why does it not say in the lore that the create of the world... 'Hilmar'... made the worlds the seas and the skys......?

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#28 - 2013-02-23 19:45:31 UTC
Musca Sklir wrote:
i agree and think you have a point. a find eve being dumed down and turned into something i more and more dislike. tiericide change to the flagging system, duelling yeah...
there's not to much point in trying to overbalance ships, let alone ships from one class and tier.
seldom, really seldom, you will see one class digging it out against each other.
you have bombers dealing cruisers, t3's and caps dealing with battleships, destroyers with frigs... every class a class that can be setup as an ideal counter for another. thats what you should balance around not make the ship of a class to be rather the same.


EVE is most deffinatley being dumbed down.

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#29 - 2013-02-24 20:49:03 UTC
Grunnax Aurelius
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-02-24 21:02:46 UTC
Weasel Juice wrote:
Why would anyone possibly want to fly a Prophecy, much better if everybody flies the same ship or not be competive.


I dont know what crap your smoking man, the Prophecy is F U C K I N G boss now.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=342042&find=unread
Sigras
Conglomo
#31 - 2013-02-24 21:03:39 UTC
so you're telling me that some ships should be clearly head and shoulders above the rest in their class . . . is that right?

If thats the case, why even have the other ships in the game?

Youre saying that you were happier with the completely broken, completely useless prophecy that is good for nothing other than obvious bait . . .

or the totally broken super overpowered hurricane that made the brutix, harbinger and ferox totally useless . . .

Or the broken HML that made every other long range solution totally useless . . .

yeah youre a paragon of balance and design
Luc Chastot
#32 - 2013-02-24 21:18:48 UTC
Outrageous! CCP should remove all other ships from the game and leave only the Drake and Hurricane. This dumbing down has to stop now! Please CCP, do as I say, so the game will become much deeper and my choices more meaningful.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#33 - 2013-02-24 21:22:48 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
Outrageous! CCP should remove all other ships from the game and leave only the Drake and Hurricane. This dumbing down has to stop now! Please CCP, do as I say, so the game will become much deeper and my choices more meaningful.


this post is not about that u dongs and u know it .

Legba
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-02-24 22:16:55 UTC
Actually, CCP ARE the gods of EvE since they created the game, they oversee 100% of its development and they can make whatever chance they want to the game. They have the power to rewrite anything on a whim. Hence god like powers.

As for nerfing the hurricane, get over it. The hurricane and the drake have been pretty much the only two BC's worth flying in PvP and PvE. Now CCP has made ALL battlecruisers equal in regards to either PvE or PvP. Your fleet doctrines will need to adapt. If you continue to cry and whine and refusing to adapt, you will get killed. Simple huh?

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#35 - 2013-02-24 22:38:28 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Actually, CCP ARE the gods of EvE since they created the game, they oversee 100% of its development and they can make whatever chance they want to the game. They have the power to rewrite anything on a whim. Hence god like powers.

As for nerfing the hurricane, get over it. The hurricane and the drake have been pretty much the only two BC's worth flying in PvP and PvE. Now CCP has made ALL battlecruisers equal in regards to either PvE or PvP. Your fleet doctrines will need to adapt. If you continue to cry and whine and refusing to adapt, you will get killed. Simple huh?


you are an incredible genius and you have just enlightened my world.

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#36 - 2013-02-24 22:40:02 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Actually, CCP ARE the gods of EvE since they created the game, they oversee 100% of its development and they can make whatever chance they want to the game. They have the power to rewrite anything on a whim. Hence god like powers.

As for nerfing the hurricane, get over it. The hurricane and the drake have been pretty much the only two BC's worth flying in PvP and PvE. Now CCP has made ALL battlecruisers equal in regards to either PvE or PvP. Your fleet doctrines will need to adapt. If you continue to cry and whine and refusing to adapt, you will get killed. Simple huh?


OH i forgot to say thank you. Thank you so very much.

Legba
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-02-24 23:06:39 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:

you are an incredible genius and you have just enlightened my world.

OH i forgot to say thank you. Thank you so very much.
Though the sarcasm is noted, you're welcome.

The pleasure was all mine in wiping away your misconceptions about the nerfs and buffs.

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#38 - 2013-02-24 23:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Cyprus Black wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:

you are an incredible genius and you have just enlightened my world.

OH i forgot to say thank you. Thank you so very much.
Though the sarcasm is noted, you're welcome.

The pleasure was all mine in wiping away your misconceptions about the nerfs and buffs.


i think what you said before was stated about 3 times in this thread almost word for word.... are you someones clone by any chance?

Legba
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#39 - 2013-02-24 23:48:40 UTC
I really hope the OP isn't actually this dumb and is just trolling

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Grunnax Aurelius
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-02-25 00:59:48 UTC
Sigras wrote:
so you're telling me that some ships should be clearly head and shoulders above the rest in their class . . . is that right?

If thats the case, why even have the other ships in the game?

Youre saying that you were happier with the completely broken, completely useless prophecy that is good for nothing other than obvious bait . . .

or the totally broken super overpowered hurricane that made the brutix, harbinger and ferox totally useless . . .

Or the broken HML that made every other long range solution totally useless . . .

yeah youre a paragon of balance and design


Prophecy is no-longer a bait ship, it is now an exxtremely viable combat ship now. but yes i agree with you about all these bunch on monkeys asking for only one good ship for each class. they are retards

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