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A Response to New Order and James 315
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#21 - 2013-02-23 00:52:50 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Good Lord. This again. Roll

Ptraci wrote:
Pattrick Henry wrote:

We are High Sec Industrialists and we will work together defend our way of life.


I will believe that when I see it.

Quite.

Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys.

And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump....

....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace.

Or you could stop letting him gank you.

So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you?
...And mine elsewhere in peace.
^Kinda important bit there.

In short, when someone annoying shows up, ditch him.
Works for me. Or it would, if I gave a moldy rat's backside about mining.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#22 - 2013-02-23 00:56:40 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Waitaminutehere...

Why am I bothering? I *don't* give a moldy rat's backside! Oops

Laters, folks....

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#23 - 2013-02-23 00:57:13 UTC
i'm sick of threads like this.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-02-23 01:00:35 UTC
Pattrick Henry wrote:

Pattrick Henry
High Sec Industrialist


Hello Pattrick Henry, I would not of known who you were if you did not sign your post. Thank you for this insightful information. With such quick thinking and know-how required to sign one's post even though their name is already clearly stated I'm sure you'll be quite a match for James315's "New Order of Highsec."

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Revajin
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-02-23 01:02:27 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Man, james has a LOT of alts.


Shameless self-promotion works everywhere it seems.
Pattrick Henry
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-02-23 01:06:34 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Pattrick Henry wrote:

Pattrick Henry
High Sec Industrialist


Hello Pattrick Henry, I would not of known who you were if you did not sign your post. Thank you for this insightful information. With such quick thinking and know-how required to sign one's post even though their name is already clearly stated I'm sure you'll be quite a match for James315's "New Order of Highsec."


Always sign your name to something you feel strongly about.
STSxLight
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#27 - 2013-02-23 01:12:55 UTC
First!

"Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#28 - 2013-02-23 01:15:46 UTC
i didn't see "give me liberty, or give me death!" anywhere in the opening post.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#29 - 2013-02-23 01:16:06 UTC
Pattrick Henry wrote:
He says that he offered survival to the Pilot if he paid a ransom, and when the Pilot paid, he continued the gank and podkilled the capsule. The Pilot had paid the ransom but was still killed by the cult. Why? In James 315’s own words to the orca Pilot, “You’re my enemy. I lied.”


Youd think this would be a simple thing to offer proof of, yet OP seems to lack any proof beyond his own ramblings. With proof like this, this thread now belongs in the proofless no-mans land that is C&P instead of GD.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-02-23 01:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Alana Charen-Teng
Eloquence is a rare trait among the rebel miners, as is an understanding of game mechanics.

Pattrick Henry wrote:
Always sign your name to something you feel strongly about.

The Supreme Protector is a gentleman and a scholar!

Alana Charen-Teng
Agent and Knight of the New Order
Loyal Servant of the Supreme Protector
Educator of Highsec Miners
Professor, New Order Department of Space Psychology
Pattrick Henry
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-02-23 01:20:41 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Pattrick Henry wrote:
He says that he offered survival to the Pilot if he paid a ransom, and when the Pilot paid, he continued the gank and podkilled the capsule. The Pilot had paid the ransom but was still killed by the cult. Why? In James 315’s own words to the orca Pilot, “You’re my enemy. I lied.”


Youd think this would be a simple thing to offer proof of, yet OP seems to lack any proof beyond his own ramblings. With proof like this, this thread now belongs in the proofless no-mans land that is C&P instead of GD.


Here's proof: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101626

He says it himself in Post #14.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-02-23 01:20:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
I think Mr. Patrick Henry might be on to something.

If in that is, he isn't another alt of James trying to inflate his epeen to proportions of glactic importance.

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-02-23 01:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
I'll be honest, I didn't really read it.

Just kind of scimmed through it, felt like I was participating in a LARP, and threw up a little in my mouth.

Did Mr. whatever have a point?


Edit: Patrick Henry, the industrialist, standing up for something. Har, now I get it.

******* troll.

We've been had.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-02-23 01:38:36 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I'll be honest, I didn't really read it.

Just kind of scimmed through it, felt like I was participating in a LARP, and threw up a little in my mouth.

Did Mr. whatever have a point?


Edit: Patrick Henry, the industrialist, standing up for something. Har, now I get it.

******* troll.

We've been had.


The truth is the majority of EVE doesn't really care who James is. Sure he gets a few laughs at first, but now the whole thing that he did is about as a passing fad as Gangnam Style is. His movement isn't affecting the majority of miners. People are going about their business as if he doesn't exist.

All I can say is that every time someone brings up a wall of text on the forums is that it is awfully suspicious seeing that the majority of us have moved on to more interesting things. Its like people who keep posting fad videos just to get attention. Yes the Gangnam was midly amusing.... Now not so much. Its like as if James keep posting Gangnam Style videos when obviously the Harlem Shake is the new best thing.

He is trying so hard not to be obsolete and most of don't give a damn because we know plenty of gankers and bumpers who have no relation to James at all.

I mean anyone can gank and bump miners. And that is the entire claim to fame James has.

Any thread that brings his name up is a thread trying to give James attention and therefore highly suspect.

If someone posted a thread about ganking a miner bumper I would be highly amused. But chances are James will pretend to gank his own bumper to get attention.

Lets just let him biomass that toon in obscurity.

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-02-23 01:41:24 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:


The truth is the majority of EVE doesn't really care who James is. Sure he gets a few laughs at first, but now the whole thing that he did is about as a passing fad as Gangnam Style is. His movement isn't affecting the majority of miners. People are going about their business as if he doesn't exist.

All I can say is that every time someone brings up a wall of text on the forums is that it is awfully suspicious seeing that the majority of us have moved on to more interesting things. Its like people who keep posting fad videos just to get attention. Yes the Gangnam was midly amusing.... Now not so much. Its like as if James keep posting Gangnam Style videos when obviously the Harlem Shake is the new best thing.

He is trying so hard not to be obsolete and most of don't give a damn because we know plenty of gankers and bumpers who have no relation to James at all.

I mean anyone can gank and bump miners. And that is the entire claim to fame James has.

Any thread that brings his name up is a thread trying to give James attention and therefore highly suspect.

If someone posted a thread about ganking a miner bumper I would be highly amused. But chances are James will pretend to gank his own bumper to get attention.

Lets just let him biomass that toon in obscurity.

I hear some people don't think the moon landing ever happened.

They always seem to have a bunch of cats.
How many cats do you have?
Pattrick Henry
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-02-23 01:43:24 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I'll be honest, I didn't really read it.

Just kind of scimmed through it, felt like I was participating in a LARP, and threw up a little in my mouth.

Did Mr. whatever have a point?


Edit: Patrick Henry, the industrialist, standing up for something. Har, now I get it.

******* troll.

We've been had.


The truth is the majority of EVE doesn't really care who James is. Sure he gets a few laughs at first, but now the whole thing that he did is about as a passing fad as Gangnam Style is. His movement isn't affecting the majority of miners. People are going about their business as if he doesn't exist.

All I can say is that every time someone brings up a wall of text on the forums is that it is awfully suspicious seeing that the majority of us have moved on to more interesting things. Its like people who keep posting fad videos just to get attention. Yes the Gangnam was midly amusing.... Now not so much. Its like as if James keep posting Gangnam Style videos when obviously the Harlem Shake is the new best thing.

He is trying so hard not to be obsolete and most of don't give a damn because we know plenty of gankers and bumpers who have no relation to James at all.

I mean anyone can gank and bump miners. And that is the entire claim to fame James has.

Any thread that brings his name up is a thread trying to give James attention and therefore highly suspect.

If someone posted a thread about ganking a miner bumper I would be highly amused. But chances are James will pretend to gank his own bumper to get attention.

Lets just let him biomass that toon in obscurity.


You bring up some good points, but if it isn't James and his followers it's someone else and theirs. We need a defense against these tactics, whoever is behind them. I have noticed several ganking ops going on in my local systems recently, which is why I decided to post a call to arms. If you're not interested, no problem. But I know a lot of miners and industrial corporations that are.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-02-23 01:44:55 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:


The truth is the majority of EVE doesn't really care who James is. Sure he gets a few laughs at first, but now the whole thing that he did is about as a passing fad as Gangnam Style is. His movement isn't affecting the majority of miners. People are going about their business as if he doesn't exist.

All I can say is that every time someone brings up a wall of text on the forums is that it is awfully suspicious seeing that the majority of us have moved on to more interesting things. Its like people who keep posting fad videos just to get attention. Yes the Gangnam was midly amusing.... Now not so much. Its like as if James keep posting Gangnam Style videos when obviously the Harlem Shake is the new best thing.

He is trying so hard not to be obsolete and most of don't give a damn because we know plenty of gankers and bumpers who have no relation to James at all.

I mean anyone can gank and bump miners. And that is the entire claim to fame James has.

Any thread that brings his name up is a thread trying to give James attention and therefore highly suspect.

If someone posted a thread about ganking a miner bumper I would be highly amused. But chances are James will pretend to gank his own bumper to get attention.

Lets just let him biomass that toon in obscurity.

I hear some people don't think the moon landing ever happened.

They always seem to have a bunch of cats.
How many cats do you have?


I have 5. Why do you ask?

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-02-23 01:46:21 UTC
Pattrick Henry wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
I'll be honest, I didn't really read it.

Just kind of scimmed through it, felt like I was participating in a LARP, and threw up a little in my mouth.

Did Mr. whatever have a point?


Edit: Patrick Henry, the industrialist, standing up for something. Har, now I get it.

******* troll.

We've been had.


The truth is the majority of EVE doesn't really care who James is. Sure he gets a few laughs at first, but now the whole thing that he did is about as a passing fad as Gangnam Style is. His movement isn't affecting the majority of miners. People are going about their business as if he doesn't exist.

All I can say is that every time someone brings up a wall of text on the forums is that it is awfully suspicious seeing that the majority of us have moved on to more interesting things. Its like people who keep posting fad videos just to get attention. Yes the Gangnam was midly amusing.... Now not so much. Its like as if James keep posting Gangnam Style videos when obviously the Harlem Shake is the new best thing.

He is trying so hard not to be obsolete and most of don't give a damn because we know plenty of gankers and bumpers who have no relation to James at all.

I mean anyone can gank and bump miners. And that is the entire claim to fame James has.

Any thread that brings his name up is a thread trying to give James attention and therefore highly suspect.

If someone posted a thread about ganking a miner bumper I would be highly amused. But chances are James will pretend to gank his own bumper to get attention.

Lets just let him biomass that toon in obscurity.


You bring up some good points, but if it isn't James and his followers it's someone else and theirs. We need a defense against these tactics, whoever is behind them. I have noticed several ganking ops going on in my local systems recently, which is why I decided to post a call to arms. If you're not interested, no problem. But I know a lot of miners and industrial corporations that are.



PRO-TIP: If you orbit a asteroid at 500m you cannot be bumped.

Also, if you tank out your barge, you tend not to get ganked so much.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#39 - 2013-02-23 02:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Captain Tardbar wrote:

PRO-TIP: If you orbit a asteroid at 500m you cannot be bumped.

Also, if you tank out your barge, you tend not to get ganked so much.


Orbiting doesn't make you immune to bumping, it just makes you more of a challenge, which some of us enjoy. If you want to make youself virtually immune and extremely hard to bump, or gank for that matter, fly a well tanked Skiff fitted with an AB and orbit the ice with it active, 600+m/s makes you extremely difficult to bump.

Tanking your ship will indeed make you a less likely target, but if you annoy the gankers enough they'll just bring more firepower to the party.

The above advice comes from intensive research and dialogue between New Order agents, we know what makes it difficult for us to gank or bump you, and we're happy to share the knowledge, it's just that most of you ignore it. The same happened during multiple hulkageddons, the hulkageddoneers were telling the miners how to prevent themselves from being ganked, and they were ignored because they were gankers.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-02-23 02:29:39 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
isn't this like the eighth one of these grand highsec alliances? couldn't you have just joined one of the first seven?


publords organizing

lol

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