EVE General Discussion

My fellow High Sec Industrialists,

When our forefathers found themselves staring at the gates of EVE they had visions of a grand new world. This world would be a place where future generations could work together or independently, to build our own lives and our own futures. We sustain our livelihoods by mining local resources and selling our wares on the local markets. By choosing to exist in this Space, we have thereby accepted the boundaries that CCP and Concord has put into place. They have created sectors in Space that have defined rules of engagement, all of which have been inspired by the needs of Industrialists and Fighters both.

Everyone who comes to EVE starts in High Sec. It is the sector that creates a sense of security, to help each Pilot train skills and prepare for more dangerous sectors. We as new Pilots create alliances with other Pilots by building Corporations and these Corporations grow in High Sec until they are strong enough to make the move to more profitable Low or Null Sec. It is this maturation process that allows us to move forward with the skills needed to survive. Without the time in High Sec to cultivate these necessary skills, a premature move into Low/Null would likely end in catastrophe for the Pilot or Corporation.

These are the proven methods of being a successful Pilot and growing a successful Corporation in EVE.

But now there exists a group that threatens our existence. The New Order cult claims that the High Sec Industrialist is ruining EVE, but we stand up to say they are wrong. The New Order cult, which spurns the entrepreneurial spirit, which vaunts the spirit and conquest, which derives strength and perverted pleasure from persecution, uses with pitiless brutality the threat of murderous force. This cult cannot ever be allowed to gain a stronghold on EVE.

The New Order cult’s effort is about gaining power against the 99%... the hard-working, blue-collar Industrialist who is simply trying to survive, by imposing a random set of self-aggrandizing rules to give this cult some semblance of meaning in EVE. They cannot gain relevance in the low security systems so they come to High Sec to pick on Pilots who have shown no aggression towards them in the least. The claim that the High Sec Industrialist is ruining EVE is preposterous. They claim the Industrialist lobbies CCP for a change in High Sec rules, thus making it harder for Low and Null Sec Pilots. They have not realized that it is exactly the actions the New Order cult that are the genesis of these rule changes. They refuse to accept the order of EVE, so they break them and then cry about the consequences. If they allowed High Sec Industrialists to build up our operations, we would be very willing to move to Low and Null when the time is right. But their constant harassment in High Sec delays that move indefinitely.

The cult hides behind their propaganda by saying there will be no more New Eden if High Sec Industrialists survive, but if that is the case, why offer us a way to survive by paying a 10mil ISK ransom? The New Order claims to accept a ransom in return for non-aggression, but not one person believes there is a magical “list” of miner names that will prevent all attacks in the future. There is a story James 315, the leader of the New Order cult, says in his ramblings online. He speaks of an orca Pilot he is in the process of attacking, and talks of his conversation with the Pilot under fire. He says that he offered survival to the Pilot if he paid a ransom, and when the Pilot paid, he continued the gank and podkilled the capsule. The Pilot had paid the ransom but was still killed by the cult. Why? In James 315’s own words to the orca Pilot, “You’re my enemy. I lied.”

We shall not fall victim to his traps any longer. We shall not be led down the road to being “under the protection” of the New Order cult. In short time, we would be confronted with demands with which we shall no doubt be invited to comply. Those demands would likely mean the surrender of more of our rights for the interest of their cult.

It is for this reason that I am announcing a new alliance. This alliance will stand for the rights of all Industrialists in New Eden, beginning with our High Sec Industrialists. We will band together to protect each other from the terrorism of the New Order cult, and fight for our right to exist in New Eden. We are a collection of miners, manufacturers, traders, and fighters, who all believe that there is room in New Eden for everyone, as long as they follow the rules and accept the consequences of breaking those rules.

We are High Sec Industrialists and we will work together defend our way of life.



Pattrick Henry
High Sec Industrialist

I will believe that when I see it.

10 million is quite reasonable for a year's respite, I don't know why people complain.

Also, nice speech, let's see some content in-game.

three fifteen for csm8

Trying to survive by subverting the sandbox and turning it into a themepark where NPCs and game mechanics protect you. The only good system is a player run one. Concord should be removed. If you want protection without doing it yourself hire mercs to do it. I don't care how as long as it's player-based.


Seriously. I'm tempted to vote for him just for causing so many threads like this.

We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys.

And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump....

....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace.

Or you could stop letting him gank you.

So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you?

I hope you're not the smart one.

I see reading isn't your strong point.

You don't speak for anyone but yourself and highsec industrialists on the whole won't do a damned thing about anything. They are passive, stationary lumps that just sit there and zap rocks. The most they will ever do is whine on the forums, because taking in-game action to protect their style of play is totally contrary to their entire attitude towards the game.

You mean like when I read someone say that the miners should work together to dock up? Yeah, that was actually pretty hard to get through; I'm not gonna lie.

I feel for you, docking is hard ****. All those buttons you have to push. The difficulty you must have.

You should let me know where you mine, maybe I can get a few people to come work with you to dock up.