EVE General Discussion

should it be true there will be less whine about carebears.

Tho i guess "player provided' content is not so exciting in reality.

So, basically, you want lawlessness, chaos, and disorder.

Unfortunately for you, thanks to the efforts of many 0.0 dwellers, but also lowsec and highsec mission runners, such large quantities of Gurista, Angel, etc ships are destroyed, that they are currently not capable of amassing fleets large enough to take on Concord, or the much more threatening Empire faction navies at this point, like the (largely unsuccessful) Sansha are doing.

yes palyers should create content but ccp should also.

I feel insulted...

Funny, cause I don't do that at all.
I dare you to link a single post where I've done this.

That is a pretty poor opinion, Player driven content is fueled by the tools provided to create it, If the tools suck the content sucks. What i love about half the community of Eve is " Go to a less safe area if you want fun and less boredom ", ~Of course so you can gank me with a ship 3 times as powerful and laugh at me in Local as you do it. I have had this happen.

Yes join a corp that takes part in Wars that you cant compete in or be any use in. Go to an area you are massively under skilled for and get ganked to high heaven over and over again.

Lets face facts, Established and well skilled players want any excuse to be able to kill easy targets as often as they like, "why" because that's fun, well only for 1 party in that scenario, Eve caters to that party in a big way as everything worth doing in Eve requires a High risk, or 9/10 times being ganked and killed by better players (Better meaning significantly higher skilled and equipped) who do it because they can and its FUN......for them.

Eve is a Fantastic PVP sandbox with a detailed and awesome crafting system, and will be for years to come, BUT, the PVE side of the game is way below par....

Il use SWTOR as a example, Fantastic story, Fantastic leveling system. God awful PVP and absolutely no sandbox what so ever with a rinse repeat token grind at end game.....It failed, by failure it has around 30k - 60k active players on a daily basis....That number is the same for EVE....So make your assumptions.

Fact is with a solid PVE environment this game will attract 3 times as many players. And that is only a good thing in the long run.

Die hard PVPers will do everything they can to drive PVEers out of a game like this. Only problem is when they are gone, what are you going to do then.....Fight among yourselves, with noone gathering your Ore and materials or providing easy kills.......Sounds like fun ????

Mine is every player in Eve should be campaigning for a better High Sec. Because without it 20k players leave this game overnight ?????

You first. You say "the tools suck" and then spout off a bunch of misconceptions about the game and you wonder why you're bored.
The tools are there, they don't suck, and you don't have to leave highsec to have fun. A lot of us may have said to go to the more dangerous areas of space, but those are only fun if you like the added risk. Some people don't. There are plenty of other ways to have fun in this game.


No, it isn't. If PVE is all you want this isn't your game.
What we most definitely do not need is an influx of a hundred thousand players all coming for the PVE element, a large portion of whom will be crying that ganking in highsec should be against the rules, scamming should be against the rules, wardecs should be consensual, etc.

i agree as being real beings they would at some stage start to understand that they are pussies and begin to stock up or gtfo and not come back. rats in high sec belts shouldnt even show up.

I am entertained by the posters who keep trying to divert the discussion to PvP in highsec. Im proposing more PvE content in highsec at such a scale that it makes Highsec dangerous for everyone. I can understand why people who want to PvP wouldnt want this. Same reason that one guy in another thread was bitching about the npc A.I. now switching targets and ruining his Pilgrim sneak attacks.

I love PvP as much as I like PvE. However, im not posting to ask for more PvP in highsec. Ill be happy for more. Id love for a day or two a month where concord takes a vacation and we can all go crazy in highsec without any rules. But CCP isnt going to do that.

Highsec is the land of PvE whether you, I or anyone likes it or not. I just want more widespread nonconsentual PvE in highsec because I know CCP isnt going to go for more nonconsentual PvP in highsec.

Id like to also see NPCs fight each other. Would add to the lore. Serpentis invades a system in Gallente space to establish a foothold to bring in more forces. Gallente Navy responds by sending in forces to drive Serpentis out and retake the system. Players participate by siding with Gallente or Serpentis in that system. Whether it is 0.5 or 0.7, that highsec system is a warzone.

Why cant I remote rep Serpentis ships if another player is attacking that serpentis ship? That would be fun. Players bringing in ships to assist the Serps or the Gallente Navy. Have an option presented when jumping into system or undocking in that system: (This system is at war between Gallente and Serpentis. Choose your alligiance. Gallente or Serpentis). Player chooses, and depending on who they choose, A.I. of the NPC determines if that player is friendly or hostile.

There could be systems in conflict spead around Empire. What I am thinking is along the lines of FW and DUST, except PvE oriented content for Highsec which any player in EVE can take part in, no matter who they are or what corp/alliance they are in. Incursions already provide similar content, but in a more scripted way. Pirate NPC incusions should be more random and more widespread to include gates, stations, etc. Not just sites and belts.

Id also like to see missions where I am fighting along side friendly NPCs. Every mission is setup to be run solo. There needs to be more encouragement, incentive, and reward for being in a fleet. More targets the more you have in fleet. Have missions scale with the size of the player fleet.