Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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and well unless an idiot generally you train those 2nd, 3rd, etc accounts to maximixe your potential in game. If you alt it smartly, that alt greatly increases your isk intake. to the point where even with todays inftaltion you plex all/most accounts quite readily. Its not ccp being greedy, its ccp knowing unless a baddie or your rl sucks ass 1 year into this game there are very few things stopping your from plexing to play this game for free at least on 1 account. Done right you pay ccp's salaries for like 9 months then its free and some noobs take over this task. For a monthly pay MMO you potentially play for years, this is a very fair arrangement.

Like in my case where work and family have ganged up to say you don't need to play these silly games as much as you'd like, some months I ring up $30 on the cc, some months $15 and some months woohoo full plexing. With ole boys pay scheme, ccp loses $5. CCP knows full well they have a strong multibox/account population and therefore know how many for sure shots of $5 a month they will lose to train even 2 accounts.

And the whole manage a 2nd account, lots of ways to make this low/0 effort. Protip: train leadership skills, plant them on p-m, profit. Until ogb fixed, lazy bonuses a plenty. If/when ogb fixed, well the put them in a tanky ship to draw aggro. Works wonders even now. For some odd reason rats love my alt in tengu boosting and frig/cruiser killing on grid. They completely ignore the golem I am trying again even with it spamming tp's and massive alpha strikes of doom.

No, I'm not kidding you, and not everyone buys year long subscriptions. Believe it or not, some people actually just pay month to month. I'm sure this lack of fanaticism may shock and offend you, but it's the truth. People really do this.

If you want to know, I personally would love to take a Gold plan to train up two alts at once. I could make one into a dedicated freighter pilot and make the other a PI specialist. Things that I would like to have but can't really be bothered to use my main for, and things that I wouldn't want to spend the entire day logged in doing.

As it stands now, though, that would cost me $45 and I'd still only be using 1 character 90% of the time. That isn't worth it to me. But for $30... yeah, it would be worth it, at least until I got those alts trained to where I want them, and then I could go back to Basic.

Now this is where you chime in "But then CCP isn't making as much money" - and that's true. But here is my retort and main point to begin with: Right now they're not making anything extra off me. They're getting their $15 and not a dime more. Not $45, not even $30. Just $15. Their greed for that $45 is the reason they're only making $15 instead of $30. So yes, it's costing them potential revenues, and not just from me but from everyone with these same sentiments.

I see how this may be good for older players that want to use small-sized ships but don't like to pay a lot for a clone and don't wan't to keep subscription for another account. Pay for a few months, train yourself a frigate player, thah stop paying. Now you got specialised pilot with a cheap clone but don't have to keep 2 subscriptions.

The fact this thread turned into an argument over money is just not my intention.

I don't want reduced prices per character.

15 bucks a month per extra character. Even if you pay the yearly subscription for the account to save money. 15 bucks a month per character. Get over it. Thats all I was asking for. We don't need to make it an argument over freakin economics.

I can't say I agree on the need to have an alt, but yes we do need a second trainable toon on one account. However asking for the ability to train a second toon at a cheaper price instead of just asking for the ability to train it for another $15 means that CCP won't even listen.

If we want the chance to train a second toon on one account, pretty much the only way CCP would even consider that is if we pretty much pay full price. CCP won't even look at the concept if we ask for cheap second character training slots.


Either way, I do hope CCP takes a peek at this and considers it. Second training slot for 15 bucks a month.

'Murica and stuff.

i think i like the idea he proposed. as id love to train my 3 toons at the same time but dont want a second account nor have no desire to multi-log /multibox

the idea of 15 a month normal fee for 1 charater training. for 2 maybe 25 a month. (+10 a month for second) and then 30 a month for 3 charaters (+5 for 3rd and final toon)

Sounds legit.
I'm ready to buy it as well.
My case: I have 3 toons on one acount, two alt are trained some basic skills. I want to extend the skills on those alts for about a month-worth of training each, but dont want to pause on main for that long period.

EDIT: Dont want any discounts, they are exploitable.

Irony.

Oh, find an argument.

Sorry for just reading the first few sites of this thread, but:

Gosh, everyone please understand the difference between subscriptions, accounts and characters!

Characters: Entitiy to connect to the gameworld.

Account: Accumulation of the above (3 in EVE's case).

Subscription: Recurring payment to have benefits for the two above.


If we add "training time for one or even a two additional characters" for $ or Plex it will just add a number to the active subscriptions CCP can advertise on (although, I really ask myself how anyone could ever assume that this is actual players). It is a win-win situation for all.

But that does not go far enough. First enable me to log into a single account, manage all my (however many) characters I own - including skilltraining - from the character selection screen. When I pay my subscription, let me choose a character set of 3 (character set = 3 chars from old account version). These 3 chars cannot log in simultaniously by default. One char may train.

If I use two subscriptions (or however many bitter vets deem appropriate... I do not care) at the same time on the same set, I may train 3 chars but may only login one from the set at any time.
If I want to have chars to login simultaniously I have to pay subscription for a new set. etc...

Give us the option of using a security token within the login process. (Screegs, where are you anyway?!)

Let us login to our account without any active subscription, but do not let us login with any char in that case obviously. Remove the account management from the unsafe environment of a web browser and add it to character selection part of the client.

Edit: Change characters without leaving the game past the character selection (be it the launcher or in the actual DX environment) I obviously missed.

I have NO idea how you got 14,000 likes but you should have them all removed for your inability to see the mutual beneficial nature of the feature IMPLEMENTED today... the same feature you said should NEVER happen.

Ignorance is bliss. This thread may now be closed.