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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2013-02-19 01:52:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
Ty ISD Cyberdine.

I had this made last month, uses AK bullets and is full-auto ready. needs a bottom half that accepts AK magazines and then it's cherry. It's the gun I decided would be perfect through deployments (one of the special forces guys had something similar, but with a silencer on it.) here it is where it sits on my desk where I can enjoy it while I pew (yo dawg...)

I have a Glock 19 Gen 4 though I think I want the Gen 3 instead

this is next

then I'm done purchasing guns, forever. those are the weapons I would carry on me like a zombie apoc urban assault sam fisher
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-02-19 02:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
ISD Cyberdyne wrote:
My weapon of choice would clearly be the Lee Enfield



Shocked


7.62 conversion?
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that's what I've got. Guaranteed to pop a zombie at 300 yards clean and alert every other zombie within 3 miles. Something tells me that t-shirt is a Day-z joke because the first thing my friends told me was if I find a Enfield to just leave it. One shot will call every zombie in town to your location.

Which leads to an amusing tactic: suicide swarming. Spot a group of guys working the town, creep in as close to them as you can with nothing be an enfield, and then fire off as many shots as you can, possibly hitting a few of them in the process.

When the swarm finishes the job, your friends loot the corpses and you respawn a few times until you land close enough to them to reconnect.


This is the exact same Saiga I got... right down to the muzzle brake. http://www.keepshooting.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/a/saiga-410-shotgun-for-sale-b.jpg

Except I haz a high capacity magazine... semi auto shotguns are awesome for zombie swarms Bear

This is the same magazine I haz.... I won't customize the saiga to that extent... I like the basic look of mine Big smile

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#23 - 2013-02-19 17:28:49 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Chainsaws require fuel (or batteries). They are also inherently noisy. This is the worst possible combination: a hand-to-hand weapon that summons more and more zombies and then runs out of fuel.

If I had to pick just one thing to fight zombies with, it would be a wood ax, or maybe a pickax. No worries about running out of ammo/fuel/power, no noise, and it's quite useful outside of combat. A second choice would probably be a shovel.

Things I would never try to use:
- Sword: it's made for stabbing and slicing, which isn't an ideal solution for destroying a brain protected by a skull. Also, requires high skill level.
- Shotgun: low ammo capacity means constant (and slow) reloading, and it would have limited range before losing its stopping power.
- Blunt objects of any kind: You'll be exhausted by the time you beat the fifth zombie's head in.



Running out of fuel, ammo and batteries is a huge misconception with many zombie enthusiasts, or at least those in the states.

For ammo - as we all know, the US has a lot of guns. Stock piles of them to be exact. And for these guns we have enormous amounts of ammo so we may spend hours upon hours shooting said guns. For this reason alone it has been stated numerous times that a zombie apocalypse would not last long in the states because as soon as one dead bugger starts shambling everyone within 3 blocks of him will be whipping out their pistol.

Now for the sake of an argument, lets say that the initial disease was some super fast moving airborne carrier to start and it later evolved to the kill, resurrect, and bite procedure. The only way for the zombie apocalypse to work is for this disease to infect at least 80% of the population in one go. By doing this you suddenly free up a ton of guns and several tons of ammo that can be found almost everywhere you go. Private homes alone could be packing up to a dozen rifles with several hundred rounds of ammunition not touched if the defenders got hit by the microscopic killer. Police stations and prisons now carry a large variety of stockpiled weapons and have storerooms full of ammo. Guns stores and pawn shops would provide you again with a large variety of weapons but only one would be carrying ammo. And then there's the Guard and their armory.

You might claim that all of these places would be already looted, but that would be statistically unlikely. And even if they are/were, well those items have to go somewhere, they simply don't get lost into obscurity. And even if you have trouble finding usable ammo, there are bound to be dozens of shell casings laying about everywhere, and pretty much any sporting good store you visit will sell refill kits. You haven't exactly got a job anymore, so unless you plan on spending every waking moment looking for a zombie to kill you should be able to set aside some time to make bullets. The only 2 ways that one could truly run out of ammo is if they bunker down and refuse to leave which is just bad to do in the first place, or if they find themselves having an incredibly bad day and they get surrounded on all sides by a monstrous horde of zombies, in which case they would be screwed anyways.

Gas - This will probably be the easiest item to find, and it will suddenly be in bulk. A quick statistic check shows that there are some 300 million registered vehicles currently in the states. Now if you have ever seen movies like zombieland, I am legend, or the tv show The Walking Dead, you will eventually see a scene where large groups of vehicles are blocking the hero's paths. Every single one of these cars is a little gas station. The gas doesn't simply disappear after the owners turn, it stays inside of that tank for years and years until it eventually goes bad. And hopefully by that time the actual invasion is gone and a new civilization is forming in Nebraska, but that's for a later discussion. All you need is a couple of Jerry cans, lots of hose, and a hand pump.

Battery - pretty much the same logic applies to batteries as it does bullets. How many various shops can we think of off the tops of our heads that sell batteries. And again, even if they aren't seen in a store, you are more than likely to find them in a home. My desk at home has a couple of AA 8 packs by itself, and then there is the rest of the house. We aren't going to find ourselves in a situation where there is a nutcase in a fallout shelter holding on to 200 thousand packages of batteries so he can power his toothbrush.

Keep in mind that today's infrastructure, just for the US, is supporting almost 350 million people and their daily needs. Even if we do a generous 10% initial survival rate that means that we now have 45 million people spread out in a nation design to support 350 million people. Yes the gears have stopped but items don't go directly from the factory to the store, there are warehouses everywhere stocked with whatever you need. It just becomes a matter of how hard is it to get to them.

As for me, in actuality I would be packing guns. 2 things have always bugged me about people who decide to go with the hand weapon only route:
1 - if you allow a zombie to get close enough for hand to hand, you are not a horrible job of evasion.
2- hand to hand usually becomes a very bloody affair, we've seen it in every movie. The issue here is that the disease is in the blood so essentially you are choosing to parlay with a ticking time bomb.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#24 - 2013-02-21 09:18:06 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Running out of fuel, ammo and batteries is a huge misconception with many zombie enthusiasts, or at least those in the states.

For ammo - as we all know, the US has a lot of guns. Stock piles of them to be exact. And for these guns we have enormous amounts of ammo so we may spend hours upon hours shooting said guns. For this reason alone it has been stated numerous times that a zombie apocalypse would not last long in the states because as soon as one dead bugger starts shambling everyone within 3 blocks of him will be whipping out their pistol.

Now for the sake of an argument, lets say that the initial disease was some super fast moving airborne carrier to start and it later evolved to the kill, resurrect, and bite procedure. The only way for the zombie apocalypse to work is for this disease to infect at least 80% of the population in one go. By doing this you suddenly free up a ton of guns and several tons of ammo that can be found almost everywhere you go. Private homes alone could be packing up to a dozen rifles with several hundred rounds of ammunition not touched if the defenders got hit by the microscopic killer. Police stations and prisons now carry a large variety of stockpiled weapons and have storerooms full of ammo. Guns stores and pawn shops would provide you again with a large variety of weapons but only one would be carrying ammo. And then there's the Guard and their armory.

You might claim that all of these places would be already looted, but that would be statistically unlikely. And even if they are/were, well those items have to go somewhere, they simply don't get lost into obscurity. And even if you have trouble finding usable ammo, there are bound to be dozens of shell casings laying about everywhere, and pretty much any sporting good store you visit will sell refill kits. You haven't exactly got a job anymore, so unless you plan on spending every waking moment looking for a zombie to kill you should be able to set aside some time to make bullets. The only 2 ways that one could truly run out of ammo is if they bunker down and refuse to leave which is just bad to do in the first place, or if they find themselves having an incredibly bad day and they get surrounded on all sides by a monstrous horde of zombies, in which case they would be screwed anyways.

When did I say anything about running out of ammo? I said shotguns are a bad idea.

Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Gas - This will probably be the easiest item to find, and it will suddenly be in bulk. A quick statistic check shows that there are some 300 million registered vehicles currently in the states. Now if you have ever seen movies like zombieland, I am legend, or the tv show The Walking Dead, you will eventually see a scene where large groups of vehicles are blocking the hero's paths. Every single one of these cars is a little gas station. The gas doesn't simply disappear after the owners turn, it stays inside of that tank for years and years until it eventually goes bad. And hopefully by that time the actual invasion is gone and a new civilization is forming in Nebraska, but that's for a later discussion. All you need is a couple of Jerry cans, lots of hose, and a hand pump.

Sure hope the zombies don't mind taking a time out to siphon the gas out of a car when your chainsaw uses up the two liters it can hold in its tank.

Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Battery - pretty much the same logic applies to batteries as it does bullets. How many various shops can we think of off the tops of our heads that sell batteries. And again, even if they aren't seen in a store, you are more than likely to find them in a home. My desk at home has a couple of AA 8 packs by itself, and then there is the rest of the house. We aren't going to find ourselves in a situation where there is a nutcase in a fallout shelter holding on to 200 thousand packages of batteries so he can power his toothbrush.

I'm talking about batteries that power something that can be used as a weapon, and what happens when you discharge it during a fight. You're talking about access to stockpiles. Completely different topic.

Micheal Dietrich wrote:
1 - if you allow a zombie to get close enough for hand to hand, you are not a horrible job of evasion.

Remember that the noise of a gun could attract more. Some times a shovel to the head is the safest way to deal with the problem.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-02-21 09:56:01 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Sometimes a shovel to the head is the safest way to deal with a problem.

I like this. There is no need to limit this kind of thinking to a zombie scenario.
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-02-21 09:58:05 UTC
you cant double tap with a chainsaw Shocked

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#27 - 2013-02-21 12:27:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:

When did I say anything about running out of ammo? I said shotguns are a bad idea.

FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Chainsaws require fuel (or batteries). They are also inherently noisy. This is the worst possible combination: a hand-to-hand weapon that summons more and more zombies and then runs out of fuel.

If I had to pick just one thing to fight zombies with, it would be a wood ax, or maybe a pickax. No worries about running out of ammo/fuel/power, no noise, and it's quite useful outside of combat.


The last line is what I'm referenced to. No worries about running out of ammo, fuel, or power.


FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Sure hope the zombies don't mind taking a time out to siphon the gas out of a car when your chainsaw uses up the two liters it can hold in its tank.


This is making an assumption that one would be shooting/hacking zombies 24/7 with absolutely no time for a break. If that is the situation then gas is out of the question anyways because you will eventually run out of stamina yourself and be overran.
Take the show the walking dead for example, how many times do we see somebody just standing around.

FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I'm talking about batteries that power something that can be used as a weapon, and what happens when you discharge it during a fight. You're talking about access to stockpiles. Completely different topic.


No I'm talking about the same thing. Places will still have stockpiles.
And to cover 2 quotes with one sentence, I have an older chainsaw that will last for several hours on a tank of gas. I'm sure that battery power saws will last longer and a battery is small enough to carry on oneself. Just how long do you intend on staying in a location if zombies show up?


FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Remember that the noise of a gun could attract more. Some times a shovel to the head is the safest way to deal with the problem.


Key word here is sometimes. Say you need to get out of a certain exit, but there are a good 20 zombies there. You are 50 ft away currently. Which would you prefer to do battle with, small arms or a shovel?

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-02-21 14:49:26 UTC
Since the Z-virus is only affecting humans, I would probably just go with some trained animals to get rid of those nasty zombies.
A pack of hyenas sounds like a reasonable solution, their stomaches could even digest the rotting meat without any food poisoning.
Or a giant mantis. Mantises like to kill their prey by ripping off their heads, so a 12 ft mantis would be the best counter to a zombie invasion. A friend of mine works in a gene lab- I should write him a mail and ask him what he needs to breed me a 12 ft mantis.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#29 - 2013-02-21 15:06:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
Zimmy Zeta wrote:

Or a giant mantis. Mantises like to kill their prey by ripping off their heads, so a 12 ft mantis would be the best counter to a zombie invasion. A friend of mine works in a gene lab- I should write him a mail and ask him what he needs to breed me a 12 ft mantis.


And the best part is with a12 ft mantis you can easily ride it into battle. You should consider using the pole saw as a lance.

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Talemecus Valta
Deep Space Coalition
#30 - 2013-02-21 15:06:41 UTC
What you really need is a silenced weapon.

Preferably one that has a high magazine capacity.

For a sidearm, an M9 Beretta, with extended magazine, red dot scope, and a high quality suppresor/silencer.

For a Primary weapon, for general use, an assault rifle set to single shot use, a B-Mag, red dot scope or a 4x Acog scope, and a high quality suppresor/silencer.

And for those times when you can't be bother to walk, a high place where the zombies can't get you, ie a tower with retractable ladder.

In the tower, a Cheytac Intervention Sniper Rifle, or an Accuracy International, AWP Magnum Sniper Rifle (.308), extended mag, high power scope, bipod, comfy mattress to lie on, and a high quality suppressor/silencer.

That's my choice, shame I live in the UK otherwise I'd be displaying them on the wall in my house.

Talemecus Valta, PVP Cannon Fodder, Valta Industries.

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#31 - 2013-02-21 16:31:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Brujo Loco
Rain6637 wrote:
are we allowed to post pictures of guns here?


That´s like asking if you can post nude pics of trannies in a brazilian forum.

No but yes.

Also, as my fav weapon of zombie protection I would use something like this, the Armor of the Dread Emperor from the Book of Vile Darkness ...

See, when zombies come, all damage will be transferred to the little elven children chained to the armor, as I laugh in maniacal glee.

Big smile

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#32 - 2013-02-22 04:22:20 UTC
Chainsaws are also useful weapons against whales. Stand up and fight plankton kill the whales!

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c4binfever
The Junk Committee
#33 - 2013-02-22 08:19:46 UTC
nobody has mentioned crossbows yet.
silent, but deadly :>

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Talemecus Valta
Deep Space Coalition
#34 - 2013-02-22 09:33:11 UTC
c4binfever wrote:
nobody has mentioned crossbows yet.
silent, but deadly :>


Crossbows are effective, even more so if you get a pump action crossbow.

However, they do take a while to reload.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#35 - 2013-02-22 14:30:57 UTC
c4binfever wrote:
nobody has mentioned crossbows yet.
silent, but deadly :>



Well this was more about discovering a new weapon rather than cycling through the usual line up but you are more than welcome to use a crossbow.



Or you can be awesome like Lars.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#36 - 2013-02-22 16:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Micheal Dietrich wrote:


Ah, but these aren't just any chainsaw, these are pole chainsaws! That's right, put a good 9' of distance between you and something that wants to have you for lunch! I was impressed with the finesse the groundskeeper had as he trimmed some of the upper branches and I realized that this thing could be as effective as a Naginata, a gasoline powered chain Naginata.

Yup. Polesaws are awesome. Hardly new, but still awesome. Got my first powered polesaw about ten years ago, used it until it broke - The trees were scared of me! Replaced it (more robust model) and got one for my father and my brother-in-law, too. You can see the trees actually try to run when we show up for a bit of limbing.

Thing is, they're not so fast and easy to wield as a you'd think. No naginata-style combat moves, and they cut much slower than, say, a good old-fashioned Husqvarna 350.

Still, a valid anti-zombie tool. I reccomend you get the Husqvarna, and give the polesaws to a couple tall friends - they reach over your shoulders and do disabling cuts at a distance, you stand in front and do the finising work. Remember - In the zombie apocalypse, you always want someone covering your back!

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#37 - 2013-02-22 16:11:31 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:


- Shotgun: low ammo capacity means constant (and slow) reloading, and it would have limited range before losing its stopping power.

You haven't met the KSG yet, have you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_KSG

Quote:
- Blunt objects of any kind: You'll be exhausted by the time you beat the fifth zombie's head in.

Bar mace. Essentialy a heavy metal bar, with one end wrapped in tape. And if you're bashing heads, you're doing it wrong - You break joints and limbs. Crippled zombie == mission kill, and that's enough.

Reasonably fit person can swing a two- or three-pound bar for a long time, and that's enough to do the job.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#38 - 2013-02-22 17:08:21 UTC
I want a Lee Enfield, but I'm going to have to settle for a Ruger 10/22. OK, go ahead and laugh, I know mine is smaller than yours. Smile But it's about the right rifle for teaching my daughter to shoot. (She proposed it, not me).

The Ruger won't be enough for zombies, but for that I have a made in India broadsword, a stainless steel katana, and a Stanley Fubar.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-02-22 17:18:14 UTC
What about acid? I never seen acid used in any zombie movie..and there should be plenty of battery acid available from all the derelict cars once the zombie apocalypse has started.
Also a combine harvester should be quite effective against zombies...haven't seen this in any movie yet, either.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#40 - 2013-02-22 17:24:48 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I want a Lee Enfield, but I'm going to have to settle for a Ruger 10/22. OK, go ahead and laugh, I know mine is smaller than yours. Smile But it's about the right rifle for teaching my daughter to shoot. (She proposed it, not me).

The Ruger won't be enough for zombies, but for that I have a made in India broadsword, a stainless steel katana, and a Stanley Fubar.

Don't sell the Ruger short. You just have to be a better shot (Let your daughter handle the rifle - women ternd to be better shots, provided equal training and experience).
I know some Sneaky-Pete types who used a suppressed Nylon 66 (.22 rimfire) for popping the point man when ambushing Viet Cong and NVA patrols. Just required someone who could reliably shoot a guy in the eye at 15 or 20 yards. Zombies? You can probaly let them get a bit closer. Blink

Use the Fubar. Break joints and wreck eyeballs. Then you can just walk away.

Zimmy Zeta wrote:
What about acid? I never seen acid used in any zombie movie..and there should be plenty of battery acid available from all the derelict cars once the zombie apocalypse has started.
Also a combine harvester should be quite effective against zombies...haven't seen this in any movie yet, either.

Acid is slow, though it will wreck their eyes. Of course, they can use their ears, and still sorta track you by flollowing the moaning of the ones who can still see.

The combine harvester, though... That'd be industrial. Twisted Listen to thrash metal whilst using it.

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