Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is a broken mechanic for multiple reasons that I won't go into. You know what they are, I know what they are, anyone who's spent time in nullsec knows how broken it is, and why.

Here's a simple solution. Implement an in game module, function, or whatever, to detect when a player is afk. Maybe have an icon next to a player when he's afk, that indicates that he's afk.

You could even go further and add this to the watch list feature. IE: you can view whether people on your watch list are afk or not. This would prevent people being able to see if half of local is afk at a glance. And it would require some preparation (adding a cloaky camper to watch list) to use.

This has no major drawbacks like some of the other proposed solutions. It fixes something that is slowly but surely killing nullsec as everyone and their brother gets more and more cloaky alts, to camp more and more of the ratting systems. It requires no mechanic changes, so there are no potential balance issues.

Problem solved.

Do you like botters? I'm going to assume you said no.
Why don't you like botters? Because they're getting some sort of in game benefit while not actually playing the game?
Guess what? A cloaky camper gets in game benefit while not actually playing the game.
What benefits can one have while afk you ask?

Well say I wanted to start a war with someone. We all know the best way to attack someone is where they make their money. AFK cloaky camping does exactly that. Without you being at the computer, you are stopping someone else from making isk.

I already know your argument to this, "If I'm not at my computer, I can't kill you". True, now how do I know whether or not you're at your computer? I don't. You know when I'm at my computer though, because you can see me ratting. Therefore the advantage is 100% in your hands. And there's nothing I can do about it.

That is a broken mechanic. It's as broken as tracking dreads. It's as broken as the original doomsday was. It's as broken as the original FW changes were.

If this broken mechanic is not fixed, one day I will be able to failcascade an entire alliance by myself with my army of cloaky alts. An alliance that makes no isk is a dead alliance.

You were killed by someone who you thought was afk, because you had no means to determine whether or not they were afk. I'm not trying to prevent cloaky ships from having their advantages, nor am I trying to prevent them from killing you. I use cloaky ships primarily, and all of the previously proposed solutions have major drawbacks that I personally would not want. This solution has none of those drawbacks, and stops someone who's AFK from having an effect on the game. Problem solved.

Counter troll: you were not killed by someone who was cloaked. Someone who is cloaked is unable to target you.

Thank you for the bump, it really helps to get this thread noticed.

Local is the problem, it produces too much intel.
No one has EVER been killed by an AFK player.
Fly in a fleet with multiple players to reduce the chance of being attacked.
HTFU
Try high sec if you want to feel safe all the time.
If you want a mechanic to tell if someone is AFK then we would need a mechanic to tell when someone is mining, running anomalies, sitting in station, in a pos bubble, or what ever they are doing.

arguably true.
i challenge any one to enter a system, scan down, and tackle a mining ship before it can warp to a pos.
i'll wager it can't be done on a large enough proportion of attempts for it to be anything but luck.

local is a powerful tool.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2643823#post2643823 better solution IMO

Another NullBear who thinks that he should be able to rat or mine in total safety, and is all mad because the intel he is receiveing from local cannot tell him wether a cloaked vessel is a threat or not.


Seriously, despite this being suche a carebear idea, it still wont work.....

A cloaker waits at your fave ratting spot, waits till he has the AFK flag, the OP then decides that its safe to come out and gets WTFBBQed. he then crys to CCP because an AFK flagged ship assploded him.

He also crys to his mom about the nasty bullies in cloaks.

Let's just get rid of local, then people won't have to be psychologically attacked by a red hovering in local 24/7.

Anyway is right to continuoslly adress this issue. I mean: people go cloacked when using a cloacking device... Clearly is a broken mechanic, cannot be just desiggned so and I'm sure CCP is not informed about this so is good to report the problem.

Any of you guys tried to fill a bug report?

you really want a solution..... force log off after 15min without input,simple camera pan to reset timer, there takes care of cloaky, gate camps, and afk miners we can all be happy,