These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Player Features and Ideas Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Another hs thread post

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#81 - 2013-02-21 16:22:56 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
ISD Suvetar wrote:
Moved from General Discussion.



And again we see F&I used as a place where threads go to die.


Be that as it may, this thread needed to die.


Another grand plan to get everyone to move into their non-HS part of Eve so they can get easy kills!!
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#82 - 2013-02-22 00:38:55 UTC
Mikey Aivo wrote:
But highsec stays the same nothing gets nerfed, u just need to compete with other players. Theres too much money in highsec as it is. This would make lowsec more viable option to players. It would require a player to be at the computer. If u watch local, run dscan and pay attention you should never loose a ship unless you **** up or are not paying attention.


ur are not reading what others are saying...not everyone wants to play like u. not everyone wants to constantly watch local, or d-scan or even be at their keyboard the entire time. for those who do want to play like that, there is low sec and null sec. hi-sec is for casual players who can auto pilot their crap around or simply walk away from their keyboard and make a snack and cuppa during a mining op. its not the hardcore gaming u want everyone to do, but its not very profitable either.

and yes, this is a nerf to hi-sec. ur not making low sec more viable ur making hi-sec less viable and all but FORCING players into low or null sec.

u still havent even explained why this casual style of play is a bad thing.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Mikey Aivo
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#83 - 2013-02-22 06:41:38 UTC
If your not at the keyboard ur not playing. Plain and simple.
U wanna go make a snack or get coffee, dock. I personally have not issues with miners or carebears, what I have an issue with is ppl that afk all day everyday and make huge profits from it. You should have to work to get a plex every month, not just orbit and ice block for 24 hours. From what I'm seeing and have seen on the forums theres a lot of ppl that feel the same way. Accually being at the computer to play I don't think is a hardcore game style. Watching local and running dscan every few minutes isn't a hard thing to do when ur mining. What else you gonna do for the minutes it takes to cycle ur lazer?
If u want passive income, moon mining and pi. Both can be done easy with any risk.
And as for not listening, I didn't say remove all of highsec, I said remove some of it. You can still auto pilot in low and null btw, its not wise but feel fee to give it a try.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#84 - 2013-02-22 11:09:11 UTC
Mikey Aivo wrote:
If your not at the keyboard ur not playing. Plain and simple.
U wanna go make a snack or get coffee, dock. I personally have not issues with miners or carebears, what I have an issue with is ppl that afk all day everyday and make huge profits from it. You should have to work to get a plex every month, not just orbit and ice block for 24 hours. From what I'm seeing and have seen on the forums theres a lot of ppl that feel the same way. Accually being at the computer to play I don't think is a hardcore game style. Watching local and running dscan every few minutes isn't a hard thing to do when ur mining. What else you gonna do for the minutes it takes to cycle ur lazer?
If u want passive income, moon mining and pi. Both can be done easy with any risk.
And as for not listening, I didn't say remove all of highsec, I said remove some of it. You can still auto pilot in low and null btw, its not wise but feel fee to give it a try.


yeah not everyone has the time to sit a computer all day. some ppl have full time jobs that take up a lot of time. then the times they are at home are spent doing chores around the house. why shouldnt they be able to mine at a belt and come back to the PC periodically to see how things are going while they check on the kids, do the washing, cook their families a meal etc?

and how much of this game happens beyond the game. u dnt have to be grinding isk to be playing, u can be on skype with brosefs, sending messages, calculating isk/hours, checking killboards and have any number of things on ur mind or a piece of paper all associated with the game. i'd consider this still playing the game, but it does not necessarily mean being at ur keyboard.

ppl have lives, and the semi afk isk making of mining is good for that.

u think ppl make huge profits from this? perhaps the miners running 5 accounts at once do, but they chew rock so quickly they do have to be at their PC. A single miner will make 10mil an hour at best and will save that up for some little PvP fun at the weekend when they have more free time. PI alone doesnt make enough isk to make someone competitive. ur massively ignorant if u think it does.

and why shouldn't ppl be able to autopilot in the safety of hi-sec? have u ever taken a freighter 30 jumps? were u at ur keyboard the entire time?
being at ur computer to play, every second of every minute, clicking d-scan and ignoring ur RL responsibilities is a hardcore gamestyle in a game that requires time and effort to get anywhere. if it were something like COD u have periodic bouts of no more than 15 minutes, and thats fine. But in eve u can be in space for hours, and u think everyone should dock up every time u get an interruption? no.

Ppl do not have the spare time or un-busy life ur implying u have. The vast majority of eves player base is more mature with full-time jobs and ur idea is basically telling these ppl they are not allowed to play. bot mining is not the same as afk mining, but If u have such a problem with afk mining, then gank and bump them.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs