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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#81 - 2013-02-20 22:02:05 UTC
Itazukii Kumori wrote:
So in essence you want CCP to cater to your needs even if other people enjoy incursions, hisec pvp and ganking etc. I'm sorry but you are not a unique and special snowflake.

You have a choice in this matter
a: Play EvE the way CCP intended to cater to the playerbase as a WHOLE as well as their vision for the game
b: Find a different game which caters more to your needs.


You are quite arrogant if you believe that your needs/desires for gameplay supersedes others'. I personally enjoy incursions, hisec pvp, ganking as well as mining - so what makes your needs more important than mine?


and u r foolish to thank that other like me weren't ran out of the game like i have already been sugested
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#82 - 2013-02-20 22:03:57 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
This. Is. A. Trap.

There is no way somebody is honestly asking CCP to remove an entire expansion's worth of content solely because he does not want to change his mining style for three days a couple of times a year (at most), all because him having to change systems is game breaking (for him, his sons, and the thousands of multi-account carebears that have already quit and will no doubt quit again in the future?)

And then he admits to some sort of learning disability on top of it.

And does this all as part of a corp with the word "mining" (mis)spelled right in the title.

This guy is trolling for wardecs, and with how overwhelmingly constant he has been in this thread, he wants those wardecs pretty badly. I suspect he managed to mutlibox his way to 3rd or 4th place in one of the Alliance Tournaments and is having a hell of a time finding fights right now.

Well played sir, well played.

no i would like to see them take the low sec rats out of the belt
Orlacc
#83 - 2013-02-20 22:04:26 UTC
The game was not made for you alone. Go play something else.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#84 - 2013-02-20 22:05:58 UTC
Or you could just go with the other option. Go to Stain and join Nation.
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#85 - 2013-02-20 22:07:13 UTC
Leela LaRue wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
Notorious Fellon wrote:
To the Original Poster:

I understand your concerns. I feel your pain. Maybe I can help?

What solar systems and what belts do you mine in? Also, you mentioned that you play with your family and I think this is wonderful. What kinds of ships do they fly for missions? What agents do you use for missioning?


IT'S A TRAP.


Really? Sounds pretty legit to me, if I was the OP I'd definitely contact this guy.


sorry this is my frist post what is an OP
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#86 - 2013-02-20 22:10:06 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
Notorious Fellon wrote:
To the Original Poster:

I understand your concerns. I feel your pain. Maybe I can help?

What solar systems and what belts do you mine in? Also, you mentioned that you play with your family and I think this is wonderful. What kinds of ships do they fly for missions? What agents do you use for missioning?


i have a harby for mission. and my sons toon r new and do have the skill realy for combat we been max there mine ablity



Ignore the mean trolls, they have no outlet for their angst. They simply do not understand your pain, and have no idea how to combat this problem. I do, and I can help. Your first step, will be to set up a proper tank on that Harby. Be sure to focus hardeners only on the rats that you have to deal with in your region. What region was it again?

Also, where does your family mine?


ok but when the incursion happen the rats change and so did the damage how do you tell what kind of damage to set up for.. in mission i look it up and set tank to it
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#87 - 2013-02-20 22:11:10 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
The game was not made for you alone. Go play something else.


granted but at the same time it was not made to exclued me either
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#88 - 2013-02-20 22:12:05 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Or you could just go with the other option. Go to Stain and join Nation.


sorry dont know what that is
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#89 - 2013-02-20 22:24:30 UTC
If I was one of his alleged children, I'd be embarrassed. No Father's Day gift this June, for sure.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#90 - 2013-02-20 22:29:59 UTC
Something you guys are forgetting is there r more facets to this game out side of combat. And there are more system .4 space and lower then there are .5 and above and what I enjoin in the game is has nothing to do with combat if I did not need faction I would not even do it. And like I said for all of you that want excitement of fleeting and killing target or pvping grate but why do you bring it in to high sec. and all I really want is that my belts stay the same so I can play too.
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#91 - 2013-02-20 22:32:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
If I was one of his alleged children, I'd be embarrassed. No Father's Day gift this June, for sure.


Why?
4runner
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2013-02-20 22:34:26 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Chandaris wrote:
I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l

there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE.


1 not everyone find the same things fun. i raid for over 8 years in other game and dont realy want to do that anymore.
2 if you dont know the meen of somthing you should ask true and i did with no respon in genal chat it was not till i picked some one out of the system that it was expland to me
3 why dose it have to spill over in to the belts forceing me to move or perticapate in something i dont want to.
4 i pay to play and if same as u and know i dont want do these style of play and till this week i did not have to and dont think it is right that ccp force this on players that dont want to for the sake of others that do



You pay to Play in a sandbox, you can't enter this game and say " This does not suit me, I want it changed"
Just unsub if you feel like combat is being forced on you...
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#93 - 2013-02-20 22:37:33 UTC  |  Edited by: kinadyan
4runner wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
Chandaris wrote:
I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l

there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE.


1 not everyone find the same things fun. i raid for over 8 years in other game and dont realy want to do that anymore.
2 if you dont know the meen of somthing you should ask true and i did with no respon in genal chat it was not till i picked some one out of the system that it was expland to me
3 why dose it have to spill over in to the belts forceing me to move or perticapate in something i dont want to.
4 i pay to play and if same as u and know i dont want do these style of play and till this week i did not have to and dont think it is right that ccp force this on players that dont want to for the sake of others that do



You pay to Play in a sandbox, you can't enter this game and say " This does not suit me, I want it changed"
Just unsub if you feel like combat is being forced on you...


in 09 when i enter the sand box there was no such thing as incursion so yes u can change the game if u have enough people that want it. and all i want is no low sec. rat in high sec belts. and as far as pvper i have work my faction with concord for that.
Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-02-21 04:15:49 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Chandaris wrote:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursion

move to another constellation for a few days

better yet, buy an incursion fit battleship and join one of the incursion fleets and make some isk. it's essentially group missioning / raiding.

yes it makes the belts mostly unuseable.. too bad :P ..


That is my point Why should i have to move, not that we dont at time for more ore. And why should i be forced to play in this manner when i dont want to: if i want to raid witch i have done in other games i would have stayed playing them and spent my 60$ some were else


The line I have bolded probably has removed any person who was willing to lend advice
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#95 - 2013-02-21 04:30:01 UTC
Just to reiterate as the op digs his super entitled heels into the ground. I wish one of those people who made those "why all the hate for high sec" post would come here and read this stuff. This is why.

Jenn aSide wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh


Gold

Pure, freaking unadulterated GOLD this post is.

When someone asks "hey, why all the hate for High sec and miners etc etc", i'ma just link this post and move on.
Mon Diddies
Indigo Generation
#96 - 2013-02-21 05:13:37 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh



bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhaah what a idiot. EVE is not for you. Try WoW

Dont believe anything you read, and only half of what you see. To be fair dont trust what you hear either.!!!!!!! TINFOIL ACTIVATE!!!!!!!!!
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#97 - 2013-02-21 22:26:15 UTC
Sure there is a way to deal with the belt rats. Get a couple friends in a small tanked gang to kill them for you, or jump out of the constellation, or run the incursion to get rid of it faster. “Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel “
let's all just collectively wardec and suicide gank this individual until he 'gets it'” Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel “

You're half right. CCP should move incursions out of high sec, but you're wrong in blaming us. It was your fellow carebears who wanted incursions.[/quote]
If they moved them out of highsec, they would never get run. The risk inherant in running them in lowsec is too great when compared to the isk gained from running them. They would have to tip the margins substantially to make it worth it.
Also, highsec was screaming for 'group up/fleet up' content, and CCP delivered in a very ingenous way.
this guy is whining because he dosn't want to fly a couple jumps for a handful of days in a game that is all about FLYING SPACESHIPS.. it's kinda pathetic.
Eve is a PVP game, in highsec, lowsec, nullsec.. It has always been about overcoming the adversity that ther players, and the environment throw at you.” Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel “



Look you guys you screamed for this in high sec. fine so be it. My problem is why dose it have to spill in to the belts and pull in people to fight or move, and why is your fun more important then mine and if u could stop shooting at people you would see there is other aspects of the game that people find fun that you may not. and if ccp is willing to write a hole expation because you all dont want to move out of the protection of high sec to do fleet op. in low sec they could stop the spawning low sec rats spawning in high sec belts dearing an incursion. And it show how really adult you are haveing to attack me vs. just trying to have a cival discussion about thisUgh.
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#98 - 2013-02-21 22:30:39 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Just to reiterate as the op digs his super entitled heels into the ground. I wish one of those people who made those "why all the hate for high sec" post would come here and read this stuff. This is why.

Jenn aSide wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh


Gold

Pure, freaking unadulterated GOLD this post is.

When someone asks "hey, why all the hate for High sec and miners etc etc", i'ma just link this post and move on.



if you dont like high sec dont play in it you have that opption. but what if you did not and u had to just like i have to not play or move. i dont want play in low sec and dont think ccp need to bring to the belts i play in
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#99 - 2013-02-21 22:38:04 UTC
Obvious Cyno wrote:
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh


Yeah uh.. in 0.0 and lowsec the rats point you and blow up your shiny battleship just for jumping gates in incursion system. I'd day the big blue/red bar at the top is a big hint not to mine in that particular system.

Sorry you can't Play afk online in incursion belts.


ok so incrusion in low sec are so dangerous that instead of ccp making them easer they move them to high sec nice and make so i have to move or not mine nice
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#100 - 2013-02-21 22:48:25 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
Chandaris wrote:
If they moved them out of highsec, they would never get run. The risk inherant in running them in lowsec is too great when compared to the isk gained from running them.

They'd get run in null.


And this is why I call people chicken they what concord pertection and pick on people when they want. instead of sacking up and staking there claim in low sec or joining a corp already there. I not a bully and have no need to make my day better by makeing someone elses worse. by wardecking sucidganking or being underhanded in any way. and if you do your a sorry person and need to seek help. not to say that pvper are bad if both party want to but to drag people in is wrong.