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Another one of those? Really? Even someone wanting to be on CSM? I do not care how much time I spent in a ship. The only thing that counts is how much time you spent/will spend on training for it before and after the patch. Period.

Given that this is a computer game we are talking about here and that the value we paid for is not the licence for the ship, but being able to log in to use CCP's service and making decisions based on the rules of this service, we should get the chance to revise our decisions based on the new rules of their service. That is all there is to it and nothing more.

Also I find it unhelpful to try and find a real-life comparison for computer game content. The fun with computer games is that there is a set of rules that do not comply exactly with the real world.

I still do not see a reason, why a player should spend more time training on something that another player can accomplish in less time. So if CCP would like to change the time to reach a skill, they should change it for all of us. And I would also say so, if CCP were to prolong the training time of ships instead.

This has been contrary to CCP's position for quite a while now. From their standpoint you make the choice to gain a capability and even if that capability is changed to no longer be applicable in some situations, so long as it remains and can be used you retain it. It's no different here that it is in the countless changes that have happened before.

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Yes. That's my point. In real life we are forced to accept those things already and nothing can be done about it. A computer game should focus on the fun and fairness of it's most basic concepts in my view and thus give us a chance to revise our decisions based on outdated rules. I think that my priorities are sorted, thanks.





Thank you for your input. What you say is indeed true. It seems I tend to think it is a difference as to what capability in this case means. While e.g. I can still fly a carrier, does not mean I was ever able to use a battleship (missing supportskills). While this is somewhat beside my point it still has to be considered to understand the following.
I was referring to the difference of actual training time it took to reach a given usablility of e.g. a carrier before and after the changes. Before, we needed Battleship V additionally to the jump skills (you were free not to skill them of course, but every capital pilot in their right mind would skill them anyway) and after the change Battleship V will not be needed. As I mentioned above earlier, the joy to be able to use something already, has nothing to do with the training time invested into flying something, since between starting the game and be able to flying a carrier was always the same span of time. But CCP changes this span of time for future players without giving old players the chance to reevaluate their investment of additional time (Battleship 3 to 5 no longer needed).

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No.

For the tenth time, the command ships skill does **NOT** need the link skills, it needs the basic leadership skills.

So, as one of the "new players", I've got a couple of things to ask.

Before I ask, just let me say, I realize a lot of you are YEARS invested in this game and your elitist mentality toward the game is somewhat warranted. However, unless you want the game to fade, you need 'noobs' like me. So, please respond/flame/get ********, but understand that I'm only looking for insight into how these changes affect me as a new player.

1. I made what most would consider a "boring" choice, and chose to remap Int/Mem for the first months of my 'life'. This change is going to make me use one of my free remaps sooner in order to get these skills to appropriate levels before the mystical release date, which is "many months" away. Will CCP provide a release date with sufficient time to begin this training, or do I need to have it underway long before the release date is announced to fully capitalize on the skills? (If I remap to Perc/Will, I need 47.5 days to get to Destroyer V/BC V)

2. These changes affect ships skills and not support skills, so other than ensuring I'm not locked in to a single race, what's the greatest benefit to getting Destroyer to 5 and Battlecruiser to 5 before the expansion? I will not be able to fit them properly for months after the patch.

3. Tiericide is a great concept, and I hope it works. It seems as though there are unmatched strengths and weaknesses throughout the hulls, even within a single race. This is not an effort for this expansion, correct? It was mentioned several times, but no details anywhere about ship modifications/rebalancing except for industrials (at least that I understood in my limited knowledge of the game). Since this is the first expansion I will go through, does my current inventory of ships get modified to the new standard upon release, or do I have obsolete equipment once the software drops (e.g. legacy Tristan in inventory new Tristan on the market)?

Thanks

Valar Morghulis

22 days different without remapping. That's significant to someone who's been playing for 30 days. That only seems insignificant when you can already fly decent ships. While I could train them unmapped, I could also change them in time, assuming CCP would be willing to give a 45+ release date announcement.



Since when do new players know about forums and all of the detritus of a game before they ever play it? When I started playing I was, like most new players, just testing out the game to see if it's worth my time. I'd say that phase is ongoing and my three month purchase of game time is just an extended trial. CCP wants both of our business, your arrogant, elitist attitude and my learning and new excitement about the game.

Honestly, remap or not, people and comments like yours are the only detractors from the game.