Crime & Punishment

Hi all,

Serious question: if you're a suicide ganker, particularly a solo suicide ganker, how many SP does the pilot you use to do it have?

Second question: how do you fund the ships that you gank with, if it's not from ganking profits?

I'm trying to get a real, factual feel for how many SP the players that engage in this particular style of game-play have. My experience with this topic is mostly with low- and null-sec players that use alts that gank to fund PvP. But it also occurs to me that I don't know what percentage of ganking this kind of ganking represents.

Thanks very much for your feedback!

In my opinion, I'm surprised you think ganking isn't pvp. Not to say it is "leet" pvp, but pvp nonetheless. It is just profitable pvp, what it is used for is irrelevant.

Ganking isn't PVP when the victim is AFK or a BOT.

About 4-6M SP or so...... enough to fly the default catalyst and thrasher fits.

My Knight of the New Order has 3.6 million skill points which allows me to fly both the T1 and T2 variety catalysts. I'm funded by the New Order shareholders. I scoop up any fittings left on my ship and recycle them back into my next ship.

I have used New Order seeded systems for a ready supply of catalysts and fittings as well as seeding some systems myself to allow for solo ganks.

By my calculations I am running a slight profit on the entire operation. This was my first experience with actual ganking and I found the New Order training and fleets to be fun and informative as well as very open to new players. The actual SP entry level requirement is very low for anyone interested in participating.

315 4 CSM8

Highsec is worth fighting for.

Bing Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable

I gank rarely, but I do it for profit, typically on shiny mission tengus. My suicide guy has 4.2m sp. He also has a rougish smile and a come-hither look in his eye.

Nobody loves a hooker.

My pod ganker had 1.5mil SP around the time I was doing that and I funded them through whatever I was doing because pod-popping Thrashers are sub 2mil ISK.

I have re-purposed this alt for potential use with the New Order, started training again, and will be fully Cat rated (to my satisfaction) in roughly a week and a half at a bit more than 3mil SP. I'll fund Cats in much the same way I fund Thrashers.

I make most of money stealing from other players nowadays (in space, I'm not into corp infiltration), but I also got lucky on some market speculation and I used to grind L4s.

E: Since others have mentioned Tornado ganking for-profit, I could get my alt into what I consider an acceptable meta-Tornado for ganking small haulers (Large Projectiles IV and BC IV, all gunnery supports yo IV, @ 8500~9000 alpha) within about 2 weeks, probably less, figure 3.5 ~ 4 mil SP total.

My suicide alt has around 13 mil SP but he's in it for the ISKies rather than miner ganking with a Cat (more of a Nado/Thrasher guy). He's sort of retired at the moment since I do some FW w/ him and ground his Sec Stat back up to above -2.0 so he could get into high sec.

When I have time to gank I do it on my main, with 80 million SP. It's a good way to keep my sec status down to a respectable level.

Now, seeing as you have time to post in a search for facts after you opened your extremely large oral orrifice and inserted the entirety your foot, perhaps you can reply to the very valid questions that are being asked in your silly campaign thread?