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CCP - Attack Battlecruiser overview issue

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BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#1 - 2013-02-21 11:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: BoSau Hotim
So players have noticed that with the new patch CCP has renamed battlecruisers into two classes. Attack BC's and Combat BC's.

What CCP DID NOT TELL US is that in the overview settings they only set it so we see Combat BC's.

The Attack Battlecruisers are not checked off so you cannot see them on your overview. Also blockade runner is a ship that is not checked off after the new patch.

So this post is to notify as many as possible to check your overviews.


How is this an exploit? (maybe not a typical exploit) But, some players noticed very quickly that Attack BC's don't show up. So they make up nice little Attack BC fleets and can warp right on you in low/null and melt your lovely little ship without you ever seeing anything in your overview. * I am not saying flying these ships is wrong. I'm saying the patch notes should have let us know about these things that had been changed.

Yes.. I lost my cute little phantasm to a naga fleet that I never saw. Now everyone say, Awwwww poor Bo! Bear


*Edited subject title from Exploit to issue*
*2nd edit here is for clarification:
I did not clarify above where CCP did not tell us the info regarding overview changes. Where I first looked for these changes was in the patch notes. The patch notes are linked on the EvE launcher. They take you to a forum post which has more links. Those links take you to the patch notes - which are not located on the forum.

My point that I should have made was I felt these changes should be there especially for the benefit of newer players, and those of us who did not realize that they should always check overview settings after each patch.

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#2 - 2013-02-21 11:43:10 UTC
They did tell us.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#3 - 2013-02-21 11:44:44 UTC
Fix it yourself. Smile

Also this /= exploit.
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#4 - 2013-02-21 11:45:31 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
They did tell us.


nope... we went through the patch notes. not one word. I would gladly love to see where they told us :)

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
Skorpynekomimi
#5 - 2013-02-21 11:46:40 UTC
So, you have to go check them onto the list manually?

Time to go exploit this!

Economic PVP
Whitehound
#6 - 2013-02-21 11:47:49 UTC
Finally are those Naga fleets doing their job!

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#7 - 2013-02-21 11:48:51 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
So, you have to go check them onto the list manually?

Time to go exploit this!



Yep, manually. So go make a nice little ABC fleet and have some fun Twisted

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#8 - 2013-02-21 11:51:45 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Fix it yourself. Smile

Also this /= exploit.


grouchy aren't you? Cool

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#9 - 2013-02-21 11:59:27 UTC
So, where's the exploit?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#10 - 2013-02-21 12:00:19 UTC
Damn, so that's why that Tornado got so many hits on me without me noticing. (I survived tho, so that's good)

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

     _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-02-21 12:02:51 UTC
or maybe it was just some guys flying nagas
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#12 - 2013-02-21 12:05:08 UTC
Mag's wrote:
So, where's the exploit?


well (sorta exploit as i stated above :P )

players can exploit this by making an ABC fleet and kiting and tearing up other players that don't see you on overview since CCP didn't check it off in our settings.

sooo.. go exploit it and get some kills

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
Sarmatiko
#13 - 2013-02-21 12:06:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
BoSau Hotim wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
They did tell us.

nope... we went through the patch notes. not one word. I would gladly love to see where they told us :)


CCP Fozzie wrote:
As a more neutral side effect that is still worth noting: the Combat and Attack Battlecruisers, as well as the Blockade Runners and Deep Space Transports, will now be in separate groups. This means anyone with custom overviews will need to add the new Attack Battlecruiser group and the new Blockade Runner group to their list of groups that show up on the overview. The default overviews will be adjusted automatically.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2482199#post2482199

Also read this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2642754#post2642754
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#14 - 2013-02-21 12:08:14 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
or maybe it was just some guys flying nagas



Tell me.. have you looked at your overview settings? and tell me.. were the Attack battlecruisers and blockade runners checked off?

puh-leeez... anyone would have seen a spike of nagas on their overview while getting their ship melted if the settings were set right during the patch. Ugh

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#15 - 2013-02-21 12:08:18 UTC
BoSau Hotim wrote:
Mag's wrote:
So, where's the exploit?


well (sorta exploit as i stated above :P )

players can exploit this by making an ABC fleet and kiting and tearing up other players that don't see you on overview since CCP didn't check it off in our settings.

sooo.. go exploit it and get some kills
Ship changes have always been like this. One thing I always do after a patch, is check the overview.

They may take advantage of your lack of vigilance, but I would hardly call that an exploit.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#16 - 2013-02-21 12:09:59 UTC
I only noticed cause someone I know was being a douche and camping Station in a Nado... I was like WHY CAN'T I SEE YOU!!
Lol

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BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
#17 - 2013-02-21 12:10:29 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
BoSau Hotim wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
They did tell us.

nope... we went through the patch notes. not one word. I would gladly love to see where they told us :)


CCP Fozzie wrote:
As a more neutral side effect that is still worth noting: the Combat and Attack Battlecruisers, as well as the Blockade Runners and Deep Space Transports, will now be in separate groups. This means anyone with custom overviews will need to add the new Attack Battlecruiser group and the new Blockade Runner group to their list of groups that show up on the overview. The default overviews will be adjusted automatically.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2482199#post2482199

Also read this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2642754#post2642754



Your quoting from the forums? This is not notifying all Eve players. It is notifying players on the forums - there is a HUGE difference as not all players go to the forums my friend. Try again.

I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!  Now... where's Ken?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#18 - 2013-02-21 12:10:47 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
BoSau Hotim wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
or maybe it was just some guys flying nagas



Tell me.. have you looked at your overview settings? and tell me.. were the Attack battlecruisers and blockade runners checked off?

puh-leeez... anyone would have seen a spike of nagas on their overview while getting their ship melted if the settings were set right during the patch. Ugh


Seems custom overviews are a positive list. If you did not add Attack Battlecruisers and Blockade Runners to them, they will not appear. Until this patch those did not exist.

I don't want CCP adding random ships to my "Planets and Sun" overview.


BoSau Hotim wrote:
Your quoting from the forums? This is not notifying all Eve players. It is notifying players on the forums - there is a HUGE difference as not all players go to the forums my friend. Try again.


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Shokre O'Corwi
The Squid Squad
#19 - 2013-02-21 12:12:49 UTC
Best troll in a long tiem Big smile
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-02-21 12:14:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Benny Ohu
benny huo wrote:
we caught it less than an hour after the patch vOv

it's not an exploit to fly a tier 3


that said i agree not replacing BC with both attack and combat BC in settings was a bad move

then again i don't know if that's possible
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