Warfare & Tactics

Probably more he stay cloacked AFK more the natives terror increase. So after some time they collapse and start tp pay ramsom to him begging to leave them alone. And all this with him being AFK.

Kinda like PI farming :)

How do you, as a member of the biggest blob in the history of Eve expect to post such a comment and expect to not look like a complete tool?

Maybe because when our corp (not our alliance) were flying around your space for the past two weeks in a fleet of ~20 Tech I cruisers and logi...and no one would form a fleet to fight us?

All of this is off-topic, however.



If the player is there to negotiate ransoms, they aren't AFK, are they?

Do people frown on people sitting AFK in stations?

Yes but really I know it's a hassle but in reality whats stopping you doing other things? There are plenty of other systems to rat in, plenty of other things e.g exploration you can do.

An AFK cloaky doesn't actually stop you doing anything in EVE. I'm pointing this out as a longtime resident of 0.0 so I have deal with afk cloakys all the time and really when I look back they haven't caused me any grief whatsoever.
You do something else until they get bored which they will do and move on somewhere else.

They only hang around if you give them a reason to, tears in local, easy ganks etc remove that then they go.

As for your point on the removing them from local if they activate a cloak? to what point is that going to make a difference?? All that will happen is they will show up in local just at the point they open up a cyno to their mates and you're screwed anyway.

What we need is a system similar but expanded on in Wormholes, remove all local but make everything in the system have to be scanned down.

This way the cloaky has a purpose to scan down all the sites if he is indeed a pvp guy. And by doing that he will have to use probes and then you can see his is now not afk. local is what is killing your ratting not the cloaky.

How can CCP dare to allow NS to be dangerous? NS is definitely broken if people can have their ships destroyed. ;)

Got a suggestion,

People whined alot about AFK miners in 0.9...so much so that the forums were filled with people talking about ganks and suicide ganks, and botters and all sorts of solutions to these things. It is true, no one should be safe in EVE, that the game, protect yourself, but the only true way of being safe should be sitting in a station.

So AFK cloaking should be given a nerf. I like cloaks, use them myself. They great for intel gathering, transport, calling in support, exploring, and other things too. but the safety of a cloaked ships in a safe spot is absolute. It is OP, any reasonable person can see that, and is ripe for abuse. The appeal of cloakng is to have the initiative, to choose when and how to engage in battle, to set the conditions of conflict. These are good in themselves, when someone is active operating the cloak.

What is being abused about cloaking, is disrupting gameplay of players, by increasing the risk involved in operating with a "red" or "neut" in system all day until they log. Most characters are subject to real lifes finite time restrictions (unless your an NPC or terminally nerdy). It is passive and lazy, and frankly, mildly griefy.
While increasing the risk involved for other players, the nature of cloak, removes all risk for the cloaked ship, even to the point of being AFK all day long. I get btw, that some scream complacency tactics.

Not a big fan of anchorable modules that detect cloaks, sweepers, or probes that can track them. What I do suggest is this...Give cloaks a cycle time, and have them consume fuel. This does a couple things. It gives them a duration away from support. It is an expense, they have to consume resources and have to have a degree of cargo space, and most of all, keeps them at least partially active.


Remove the "lazy" aspect from AFK cloaking CCP. Do not let cloaked ships be decloaked, but reduce thier duration of operation with fuel and a cycle time. If cap or fuel run out, then the cloaky is vulnerable.

It is a mild nerf, but removes the lazy, people will find ways to operate a cloak taking all that into account, to replace as much lazy back into it as they can.
Maybe a new skill, might be good to introduce to reduce fuel costs or cap costs of the new cloak cycle, idk. You devs can figure that out, this was just a suggestion, to mitigate what I find is getting out of hand...All day, camping, AFK cloakies.

I have no idea what your saying, or what your position is...I mean isn't cloaking being risk averse?

There is a SUPER easy way to limit the impact of afk cloaked. Ask in local, "How much Isk to leave me alone?" or something along those lines. As long as he doest reply, he's probably not at his keyboard.

what makes me smile is that ur guys days get ruined because your so scared to undock cos theres a neutral in system... Its Only Pixels .......