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They just had to pick my home system for this noise.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1 - 2013-02-20 17:03:50 UTC
SDII Rally in Villore 2-21


Sounds nice, all that talk about "freedom and justice" and all that. Gotta hand it to the Federation at least to have such aspirations.

But it's a little contradictory for the Black Eagles to be involved, no?

This is like having a gun pointed at your head and the person holding it tell you how protected you should feel.


All empires are a scam.

Maybe I'll stick around for the entertainment.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#2 - 2013-02-20 17:14:25 UTC
This will not end well.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#3 - 2013-02-20 17:18:12 UTC
'loyalty and the Gallente way' coupled with recruiters and prominent Gallente figures there to 'do their civic duty'.

Anyone seen the old holovid 'It can't happen here' ?

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-02-20 17:19:44 UTC
Excellent! About time the SDII got some recognition for the tireless work they've been doing in defence of the Federation and its people.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Anslo
Scope Works
#5 - 2013-02-20 17:29:11 UTC
Just don't have an anti-Blaque concert nearby, they might raid it.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2013-02-20 17:37:04 UTC
Will have to see what's Blaque up to, but it's better that they organize such rally.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Sakura Nihil
Faded Light
#7 - 2013-02-20 23:15:27 UTC
Things never go well when people start holding speeches talking about "loyalty" and "the ___ way". Look at Heth's recent comments.

It's a fast slide to fear, paranoia, and the surrender of individual freedom in the name of security.

Glory

Faded Light is recruiting
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2013-02-21 01:14:25 UTC
My point is that a truly free federation does not need this pageantry and hoorah crap.

By day's end, I have a hard time figuring out if there are any good guys in the conflict, but I suspect that the war continues to keep the populations down and capsuleers busy while special interests get rich selling ammo to all sides.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Zsaryna Adrelana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-02-21 01:34:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Zsaryna Adrelana
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
My point is that a truly free federation does not need this pageantry and hoorah crap.

By day's end, I have a hard time figuring out if there are any good guys in the conflict, but I suspect that the war continues to keep the populations down and capsuleers busy while special interests get rich selling ammo to all sides.




You're still wondering if there are good guys?

I do this for many reasons. I do it because I believe it is right. I do it because I will profit by it. These all consolidate into one reason: I do it because I can.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2013-02-21 02:12:32 UTC
Fascinating to see the New Federation at work. I must say that I do admire the changes that they're making.

I may visit, it looks like I'd feel right at home.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#11 - 2013-02-21 03:57:14 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Excellent! About time the SDII got some recognition for the tireless work they've been doing in defence of the Federation and its people.

I second Andreus's sentiment. The perpetuation of our Federal Union compels us to temper our pursuit of individual liberty with the practicality of or collective self preservation. Let us then recall, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#12 - 2013-02-21 04:48:26 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Let us then recall, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."


To which I must warn my friend, “Patriotism is nationalism, and always leads to war.” - and thus is the anti-thesis to peace.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#13 - 2013-02-21 05:39:50 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:

I second Andreus's sentiment. The perpetuation of our Federal Union compels us to temper our pursuit of individual liberty with the practicality of or collective self preservation. Let us then recall, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."


Extremism is still extremism no matter the circumstances.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2013-02-21 07:40:29 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
This is like having a gun pointed at your head and the person holding it tell you how protected you should feel.


"Now remember class, it's only tyranny when other nations do it."

*chuckles*

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Astera Zandraki
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-21 08:15:17 UTC
I'll be there, if only to tell Blaque what I think of his vile, racist, jingoistic, imperialist, heartless and morally bankrupt self.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#16 - 2013-02-21 08:34:37 UTC
Zsaryna Adrelana wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
My point is that a truly free federation does not need this pageantry and hoorah crap.

By day's end, I have a hard time figuring out if there are any good guys in the conflict, but I suspect that the war continues to keep the populations down and capsuleers busy while special interests get rich selling ammo to all sides.


You're still wondering if there are good guys?


Im sure they are such, but aren't just publicly visible.

Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Fascinating to see the New Federation at work. I must say that I do admire the changes that they're making.

I may visit, it looks like I'd feel right at home.


It's not the Federation, only Blaque and his Black Eagles doing PR.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2013-02-21 19:27:03 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:

I second Andreus's sentiment. The perpetuation of our Federal Union compels us to temper our pursuit of individual liberty with the practicality of or collective self preservation. Let us then recall, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."


Extremism is still extremism no matter the circumstances.


I think that was sarcasm.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#18 - 2013-02-22 02:11:45 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:
Let us then recall, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."

To which I must warn my friend, “Patriotism is nationalism, and always leads to war.” - and thus is the anti-thesis to peace.

Good Simon, you know my mind better than most regarding the conflict in which our two cultures now contend.

It is important however to recall that while we may seek an "honorable peace", we are not willing to accept "any peace".

Peace for its own sake is insufficient.

If the State must have Caldari Prime, then it must be willing to make concessions of equal measure.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-02-22 02:14:37 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
If the State must have Caldari Prime, then it must be willing to make concessions of equal measure.

Black Rise would be nice.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#20 - 2013-02-22 02:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Simon Louvaki
James Syagrius wrote:

Good Simon, you know my mind better than most regarding the conflict in which our two cultures now contend.

It is important however to recall that while we may seek an "honorable peace", we are not willing to accept "any peace".

Peace for its own sake is insufficient.

If the State must have Caldari Prime, then it must be willing to make concessions of equal measure.


I would have to agree with you my friend. Some would say a bad peace is worse than any war; I myself hold that self evident by the situation cultivated by the Treaty of Iyen-Oursta and how quickly the Caldari people were drummed up into a frenzy against the Federation.

I'd very much like to see President Roden, if he so desired an end to this war, breach the topic of what 'concessions of equal measure' might be.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
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