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Incursion, what and why
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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#1 - 2013-02-20 18:46:00 UTC
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-02-20 18:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Chandaris
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursion

move to another constellation for a few days

better yet, buy an incursion fit battleship and join one of the incursion fleets and make some isk. it's essentially group missioning / raiding.

yes it makes the belts mostly unuseable.. too bad :P ..
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#3 - 2013-02-20 18:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Incursions aren't PvP content, they're PvE content. Basically Sansha NPCs invade a constellation, plunder the planets for unwilling recruits and take on all comers in a fight. Depending on the level of control they have you'll find your ships tank is reduced and your damage output is reduced, mission rewards are also reduced.

They do all types of damage and hit hard, the only NPCs that are anywhere near as nasty live in wormholes, mining in an incursion system is not advised unless you're using a Skiff, even then you have to be careful.

TL;DR if you're in an incursion system, expect to explode in a PvE fitted ship.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#4 - 2013-02-20 19:10:02 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursion

move to another constellation for a few days

better yet, buy an incursion fit battleship and join one of the incursion fleets and make some isk. it's essentially group missioning / raiding.

yes it makes the belts mostly unuseable.. too bad :P ..


That is my point Why should i have to move, not that we dont at time for more ore. And why should i be forced to play in this manner when i dont want to: if i want to raid witch i have done in other games i would have stayed playing them and spent my 60$ some were else
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#5 - 2013-02-20 19:13:20 UTC
Op don't worry CCP will remove random for ya i am absolutely positive about that.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#6 - 2013-02-20 19:13:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
You don't have to move, but you are advised to. The incursions occur randomly and are by no means anything like a raid.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#7 - 2013-02-20 19:15:09 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Incursions aren't PvP content, they're PvE content. Basically Sansha NPCs invade a constellation, plunder the planets for unwilling recruits and take on all comers in a fight. Depending on the level of control they have you'll find your ships tank is reduced and your damage output is reduced, mission rewards are also reduced.

They do all types of damage and hit hard, the only NPCs that are anywhere near as nasty live in wormholes, mining in an incursion system is not advised unless you're using a Skiff, even then you have to be careful.

TL;DR if you're in an incursion system, expect to explode in a PvE fitted ship.



Thank you for your explation of an incursion, and i understand that it is other player can do what ever they want, they pay to play the same as i do but ccp pop my ships in .7 space not a npc and that is my problem
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-02-20 19:15:39 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
That is my point Why should i have to move, not that we dont at time for more ore. And why should i be forced to play in this manner when i dont want to: if i want to raid witch i have done in other games i would have stayed playing them and spent my 60$ some were else


This is EVE. Adapt or die.

Incursions are a very good thing for highsec, and are very popular, and even *gasp* fun to do. They are not going anywhere,

Either join them, and run it (and make way more money than you will mining), move to another constellation until it's gone (usually 5-7 days) or logoff and do something else until it's gone. but for the love of god don't fill this thread with whine and butthurt about it :P
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2013-02-20 19:19:12 UTC
I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l

there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2013-02-20 19:23:25 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Incursions aren't PvP content, they're PvE content. Basically Sansha NPCs invade a constellation, plunder the planets for unwilling recruits and take on all comers in a fight. Depending on the level of control they have you'll find your ships tank is reduced and your damage output is reduced, mission rewards are also reduced.

They do all types of damage and hit hard, the only NPCs that are anywhere near as nasty live in wormholes, mining in an incursion system is not advised unless you're using a Skiff, even then you have to be careful.

TL;DR if you're in an incursion system, expect to explode in a PvE fitted ship.



Thank you for your explation of an incursion, and i understand that it is other player can do what ever they want, they pay to play the same as i do but ccp pop my ships in .7 space not a npc and that is my problem


That's just the point, it's not other players or CCP that popped your ships, it was in fact NPCs, just not the ones you're used to. Incursion NPCs have a very nasty and devious AI that is vastly removed from that of the other 90% of NPCs in the game. They're about as close to other players as an AI can get in a game.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-02-20 19:25:45 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh


Gold

Pure, freaking unadulterated GOLD this post is.

When someone asks "hey, why all the hate for High sec and miners etc etc", i'ma just link this post and move on.
Obvious Cyno
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-02-20 19:28:01 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
I have been out of the game for a few years and I don’t fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. Ugh


Yeah uh.. in 0.0 and lowsec the rats point you and blow up your shiny battleship just for jumping gates in incursion system. I'd day the big blue/red bar at the top is a big hint not to mine in that particular system.

Sorry you can't Play afk online in incursion belts.
kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
#13 - 2013-02-20 19:30:08 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l

there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE.


1 not everyone find the same things fun. i raid for over 8 years in other game and dont realy want to do that anymore.
2 if you dont know the meen of somthing you should ask true and i did with no respon in genal chat it was not till i picked some one out of the system that it was expland to me
3 why dose it have to spill over in to the belts forceing me to move or perticapate in something i dont want to.
4 i pay to play and if same as u and know i dont want do these style of play and till this week i did not have to and dont think it is right that ccp force this on players that dont want to for the sake of others that do
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#14 - 2013-02-20 19:33:20 UTC
kinadyan wrote:
Chandaris wrote:
I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l

there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE.


1 not everyone find the same things fun. i raid for over 8 years in other game and dont realy want to do that anymore.


I was wrong, it's not Gold, it's PLATINUM. This poster delivers.

Also GBTWoW
Quote:

2 if you dont know the meen of somthing you should ask true and i did with no respon in genal chat it was not till i picked some one out of the system that it was expland to me
3 why dose it have to spill over in to the belts forceing me to move or perticapate in something i dont want to.
4 i pay to play and if same as u and know i dont want do these style of play and till this week i did not have to and dont think it is right that ccp force this on players that dont want to for the sake of others that do


What's better than Platinum guys? im running outta precious metals to compare this too!!
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2013-02-20 19:34:30 UTC
Like is always said.....adapt or die.

I find it a great excuse to run Missions and do some Wormhole play for a few days.

Is there a shortage of things to do in EVE suddenly ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2013-02-20 19:35:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
I used to consider myself a carebear, now I'm ashamed of labelling myself that way, because of threads like this and people that can't accept Eve for what it is.

I need a new label, because the real carebears make me look bad.

@ Jenn Aside, Unobtainium

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-02-20 19:36:28 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


What's better than Platinum guys? im running outta precious metals to compare this too!!



Apparently Rhodium.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-02-20 19:38:41 UTC
I agree, if ccp want my money then Eve should work how I want it to!

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2013-02-20 19:40:11 UTC
I like how OP tells us how much he spends and how many accounts he has in an effort to change CCPs mind about incursions.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#20 - 2013-02-20 19:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


What's better than Platinum guys? im running outta precious metals to compare this too!!



Apparently Rhodium.


Got it. Not to make a Song with it.

""They see my Rhodium, They hatin! patrolllin, tryin to catch me ridin dirty!!!!!""

Hope that ain't copyrighted!
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