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Cyclone The much better drake.

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#21 - 2013-02-20 17:44:13 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
projectiles did insta damage which is nice in pvp missiles is like fire. wait....... 10s hit. fire. wait....... 10s hit

Granted, but at HAM range it's not that big a deal.

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Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
#22 - 2013-02-20 17:45:42 UTC
The Sleipnir is pretty irrelevant to the Hurricane or Cyclones capabilities and balance.
destiny2
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Looking for Trouble
#23 - 2013-02-20 17:46:30 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
projectiles did insta damage which is nice in pvp missiles is like fire. wait....... 10s hit. fire. wait....... 10s hit

Granted, but at HAM range it's not that big a deal.


true however if people see a cyclone land on grid their gonna know your going to be useing hams. without you even fireing so their going to stay outta your Ham range so you cant do anything but just tank.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#24 - 2013-02-20 17:54:20 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
projectiles did insta damage which is nice in pvp missiles is like fire. wait....... 10s hit. fire. wait....... 10s hit

Granted, but at HAM range it's not that big a deal.


true however if people see a cyclone land on grid their gonna know your going to be useing hams. without you even fireing so their going to stay outta your Ham range so you cant do anything but just tank.
Sounds like a fitting challenge to solve, more than anything else. I've resolved that issue with my Drake, maybe I can figure a way to make the Cyclone dance, too? Waltz a bit, perhaps, if not full-tilt boogie. Worth a try. Cool

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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#25 - 2013-02-20 17:59:54 UTC
I'm having some trouble reconciling the Cyclone being a better Drake. Can you please post the fits that you're concerned about?

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The Troll Bridge
#26 - 2013-02-20 18:00:49 UTC
Cyclone....HAM ASB brawler.... SCHWING!!!!!!!!!

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Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-02-20 18:01:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
destiny2 wrote:
but WHY CCP WHY WHY WHY do you have to make the minmatar more like Caldari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably for the same reason they're making amarr more like gallente. I have no idea what that reason is, however. Personally, I like that the races are getting more choices.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#28 - 2013-02-20 18:09:47 UTC
Cyclone is Drake doing it wrong whats not to like.

Thanks god for ASB without it this ship would be completely irrelevant to EvE online...like this it will just die when charges are up..Yaaay fun times,best patch Everrr.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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#29 - 2013-02-20 18:22:57 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
projectiles did insta damage which is nice in pvp missiles is like fire. wait....... 10s hit. fire. wait....... 10s hit

Granted, but at HAM range it's not that big a deal.


true however if people see a cyclone land on grid their gonna know your going to be useing hams. without you even fireing so their going to stay outta your Ham range so you cant do anything but just tank.


It's a good thing you'll likely be faster than them. Smile

While HAMclones will be effective, you might also consider that Minmatar have other options than brawling toe to toe, and that using your speed to stay out of arms reach while pounding away with heavies and drones would be effective as well... especially if you are going to be fighting HAMdrakes.

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Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
#30 - 2013-02-20 19:29:06 UTC
HAM cyclone looks pretty OK to me though maybe a bit light in the tank at around 48K if you opt for full tackle. It hits 1400 m/s compared to the Drake's rather pedestrian 1000 m/s (no nano on the drake, one nano on the Cyclone). The cyclone can also easily fit a pair of medium neuts which is certainly relevant, while applying right at 600 (593) dps of selectable damage (675 w/ heat).

I don't know that it's better, but it's faster, and has the 2 neuts at the cost of significantly less tank. The HAM Drake still spits out over 700 DPS of Kinetic Damage and can now very easily spin a medium neut. Variety is cool, no?

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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#31 - 2013-02-20 21:42:13 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
It is precisely because of that big-ass gap between the Talwar and the Typhoon - so that players that like Minmatar, like Missiles, and like Battlecruisers have something to fly.


And that, is basically that.

Please use the formal Retribution 1.1 Feedback and Issues threads instead of starting new topics please.

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