Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would seriously consider not trying to take advantage of the existing conflict.

It is enough to wait until the fight is over.
These rats are noone's allies, they are not trying to be fair or follow any fershluggineer etiquette delusions.

They want to kill everything. This means BOTH you and the first guy.
They want the best chance for all dead, and not just one guy and the other surviving to leave. I bet they guessed you would probably live if the first guy gets killed, which they don't want.

They are just fine dying in the process.

Wanna understand them? Then think like them.
They figure the first player will attack you, and you will attack whoever. As you are the least damaged, bringing you down takes a priority over the first guy, who they figure they can clean up afterwards. (Better chance at least, and if you damage him even more they are just fine with that)

They would rather fail trying to kill everyone than succeed against just one side, and get called player lovers.
(Hey player lover, why don'cha just join their corp, you been helping em anyways.... rude noises)

If your having problems killing any PvE fit you should be ashamed of yourself. Even with the NPCs against you.

Glad I entertained you, shouldn't you be in that belt ratting though?
Don't worry your pretty little head, you're safer than ever now. CCP is with you. Long live the noob.

I loved the fact you cared to post, I love the fact that I angered you even enough to post and quote.
You turned me on for a second, almost the same feeling I get when I solo blow noobs out of their badly fitted PVE boats.

Back on topic, The AI debate will continue as both sides feel they have a warranted argument.
It will loose a small player base because of the changes, others will try to adapt, the main adaption will be to bring more friends.
Seeing solo players trying to do the stunts they used to will almost dry up and the way of PVP will lean even more into the blob.

Its a shame because it was fun and a lot of people (although still a minority) enjoyed this style of gameplay.

You Sir! I challenge thee to a duel!
Just give me some time to catch up with the ship rebalances and to pull enough intel on what you normally fly and how you normally fit so I can counter you.

TY.

Actually I don't belt rat. It's about the most boring thing in the world I could imagine. As I said, your misspelling the word didn't invalidate your argument. Calling me a n00b doesn't invalidate anyone else's either -- nor trying to weaken me by feminizing me.

Look, the ratter doesn't have any idea of your fit. When you scan them down, you can scan down what they're fighting. If you, having way more intelligence than your target, can't take down your target in a ship not prepped for PvP, well... there's a word for that.

Whats the word, enlighten me?

I actually don't agree with a lot of the changes going on in Eve where it affects the time and money put into the game to skill up in all forms to do something you find enjoyable for CCP to then go and change it.

That was real time and effort invested. I don't have the time or the patience to reinvest a bunch of time in all respects to make the way I play the game fun again.

The AI change for me was the biggest one thing that affected the way I play the game.
I can't even be bothered to logon anymore which is a shame because I used to love this game very much.

Wow, the AI change has resulted in a greater tear harvest than I imagined.

Good thing they released bigger buckets.

We don't bother with strategy anymore: we just blob the **** out of people now. It works very well.

That doesn't mean the AI changes were a good idea, and it doesn't mean a lot of us don't want solo ganking back.

Implementing standings gains with a faction upon destroying the ship of a player who had negative standing to that faction would be amazing as well. I forget who mentioned it earlier in the thread, but it's a great idea.

Even so, though, it would make sense for rats not to shoot someone who was:

A) Not shooting them
B) Shooting a player who was shooting them

Even players in PvP scenarios do this. If you really need an elite pvp example, in one of Kovorix's videos he goes after a couple of escort ships and an Orca from one alliance. When he follows them through a gate he finds two neutral Thrashers also engaging the Orca gang. He proceeds to tear into the Orca and its escorts while leaving the Thrashers for last, because they're not threatening him and are helping him kill his first choice of target. As soon as the Orca and his friends are dead, he tries to grab the Thrashers as well (but doesn't succeed because they know what's going to happen and zoom off).