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New BPO for hurricanie BC it's now 8% more expensive to build ..
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#41 - 2013-02-20 05:50:54 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Hey I just me20 you, and this is crazy...


This meme should never-ever-ever, be allowed to fester.


You go talk your mods, talk to my mods, talk to me.

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Kai Sheia
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-02-20 08:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kai Sheia
RubyPorto wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

No we don't, we know that K is short for 1,000, and that triple K is shorthand for a bunch of real life Amarr (from another post).

K is 1,000
M is 1,000,000
B is 1,000,000,000
T is 1,000,000,000,000


K is 1,000
M is 1,000,000
M(iliard) is 1,000,000,000
B is 1,000,000,000,000
B(iliard) is 1,000,000,000,000,000
T is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000

Long form is equally valid.


thats where it really gets my goat though. while it would be relatively asinine to argue about what to call a thousand millions as its simply a dispute in what the designation is... a 1 followed by 6 zeros is either a million-whatever, or mega-whatever. either way same abbreviation!

where does ANYONE get the idea that "kk" is not absolutely wrong and idiotic?

I mean it would be reasonable if the dispute was wether to call "1,000,000,000" 1b or 1000m, or whatever else you want to call it, (though I think out of simplicity and brevity it makes sense to default to the american style designation...) at least on THAT one, its a dispute.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#43 - 2013-02-20 10:16:01 UTC
Kai Sheia wrote:
There is no language or unit of measure where "kk" is correct. Period. If you were told otherwise you were told wrong.


I beg to disagree: http://www.kotus.fi/index.phtml?i=546&s=2610

Although here it's used as a unit of time not to describe an amount.

Kotimaisten kielten keskus (kotus) is pretty much as official and final a source for finnish language as it gets.

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2013-02-20 11:26:42 UTC
So nerf the hurricane and make it more expensive to build and buy.. Yeah 'really' makes sense CCP

So people will stop flying it anyway due to the nerf, and doubly so due to price increase, way to go kill a ship in a day...

Be interesting to see how much this ship declines

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-02-20 11:35:37 UTC
Kai Sheia wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

No we don't, we know that K is short for 1,000, and that triple K is shorthand for a bunch of real life Amarr (from another post).

K is 1,000
M is 1,000,000
B is 1,000,000,000
T is 1,000,000,000,000


K is 1,000
M is 1,000,000
M(iliard) is 1,000,000,000
B is 1,000,000,000,000
B(iliard) is 1,000,000,000,000,000
T is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000

Long form is equally valid.


thats where it really gets my goat though. while it would be relatively asinine to argue about what to call a thousand millions as its simply a dispute in what the designation is... a 1 followed by 6 zeros is either a million-whatever, or mega-whatever. either way same abbreviation!

where does ANYONE get the idea that "kk" is not absolutely wrong and idiotic?

I mean it would be reasonable if the dispute was wether to call "1,000,000,000" 1b or 1000m, or whatever else you want to call it, (though I think out of simplicity and brevity it makes sense to default to the american style designation...) at least on THAT one, its a dispute.


It's an old-school European style of thinking. It changed before I got into this stuff to much but I do remember hearing a guy give a presentation where he used billiard (2 L's - not 1 like shown) and I asked him afterwards what the hell he meant (presentation to audience stuff -- audience was "old school" so he used "old school" phrases)

That number system hasn't been used in a while but there are still quite a few older folks around that stick to it.

As for tolerance of the abbreviation - if we can insist on Fahrenheit, Gallons and Feet vs Celsius, Liters and Meters here in the US, I'd tend to put a cork in talking about others foibles with respect to what they learned growing up and where it's led them with respect to expressing numbers.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-02-20 12:15:40 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
And because freighters can now load up in space, too.


I love this change.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#47 - 2013-02-20 12:21:37 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Long form is equally valid.
…but then you should probably not use the SI prefixes, and instead indicate the long forms with something else. P
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2013-02-20 12:22:22 UTC
tiberiusric wrote:
So nerf the hurricane and make it more expensive to build and buy.. Yeah 'really' makes sense CCP

So people will stop flying it anyway due to the nerf, and doubly so due to price increase, way to go kill a ship in a day...

Be interesting to see how much this ship declines


I see you are bitter and twisted that it no longer overshadows everything else in its class.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-02-20 13:03:38 UTC
so you mean you can't just sit still and churn out the same item all the time assuming you'll make the same profit?

You have to change your production lines when things change?

CRIKEY!!!!
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#50 - 2013-02-20 14:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Hurricane - pre:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/1/24702/0/5/0/5
Hurricane - current:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/0/24702/0/5/0/5

Cyclone - Pre:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/1/16231/0/5/0/5
Cyclone - Current:
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/0/16231/0/5/0/5



It'll take a fair time for the numbers to even out. Some people saw the change coming, and stuck in lots of BCs to cook. Singularity is handy that way.

Woo! CSM XI!

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2013-02-20 15:03:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
So nerf the hurricane and make it more expensive to build and buy.. Yeah 'really' makes sense CCP

So people will stop flying it anyway due to the nerf, and doubly so due to price increase, way to go kill a ship in a day...

Be interesting to see how much this ship declines


I see you are bitter and twisted that it no longer overshadows everything else in its class.


Not really, love the ship but yes it was a little overpowered. But this is nothing to do with that is it? Nerfing a ship fine, blasting it into the eve graveyard is another thing..

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#52 - 2013-02-20 16:33:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Long form is equally valid.
…but then you should probably not use the SI prefixes, and instead indicate the long forms with something else. P


Probably.

In any event, "kk" is not valid.

Use Roman Numerals if you want, Long form, Short form, whatever. In no number naming scheme that I know is there a place for using "kk" to represent "Million."

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2013-02-20 16:38:22 UTC
tiberiusric wrote:


Not really, love the ship but yes it was a little overpowered. But this is nothing to do with that is it? Nerfing a ship fine, blasting it into the eve graveyard is another thing..


Its on par with the other BC now. God forbid you now have to worry about taking on a ferox.
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#54 - 2013-02-20 16:50:57 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Hey I just me20 you, and this is crazy...


This meme should never-ever-ever, be allowed to fester.


Too late.

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Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#55 - 2013-02-20 17:12:14 UTC
IsTHeRoD wrote:
4kk
Don't start this here! Go away!
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