EVE General Discussion

Best part about this thread is the Damn Cammode guys implying that being in a small gang means you have skill.


Sorry bro, but if your go to ship was the Cane or Drake your 'skill' is automatically under investigation.



Oh by the way did you realize that every trash throwaway fleet in 0.0 was made of drakes? All them skilled Goonies and Test guys do so appreciate the comments. Somehow I see them adapting quite fast....you on the other hand...yea you'll probably just unsub in a huff.

Poor lil fella.

Don't worry, there will be another FOTM BC any day now.

So when will people that complain about small gang pvp getting nerfed start basing they're arguments on small gang vs. small gang instead of small gang vs. blob.

That being said, tiericide has done some good to small gangs. T1 logistics for isntance. Cheap and effective.

I like the changes and contrary to the OP I believe that no you will see a greater variation in what makes up small gang pvp. Now, the other BCs are usable in small gang/solo, you wont necessarily know what you are going to face when you go roaming.

Until now you would expect to see drake or cane gangs, or some other fotm class of ships, with the new changes expect to find gangs of prophecies along with brutix, rather than 'see prophecy, expect baited hotdrop'.

More viable options # better and more varied play.

While I commend the OP on his skill at ventriloquism, I must disagree with what his arse is saying.

Seeing as the fitting that the original comments were made about were based around fits along the lines of:

[Hurricane, armorcane]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x1
Hobgoblin II x4



Which are no longer possible to do* - I have absolutely no idea what your talking about and like liang are probably missing entirely the point of what I'm talking about. I can only assume you think I'm talking about shield "whelp" canes which is entirely a different matter.


*You can do a hacked up version of the fit with RCU and losing turret but thats another matter.

I'm not crying and neither do I have much interest in flying either the cane or cyclone. I just find it a bit odd that the abilities of the cane in certain fits were put out as the reasoning for the changes it had this patch as being unsuited to a BC yet post patch the cyclone can now be fit in a way that has the same/similiar attributes.

End of the day my min alt will be flying lokis in wormhole space and these changes don't directly affect me - its just becoming a worrying trend in eve lately and sooner or later will probably affect something I fly.

Maybe stop flying flavor of the month and focus on what playstyle you enjoy the most, learning that and working around its weaknesses? Perish the thought.

Why do you think larger fleets should be vulnerable to small gang harassment? Don't you think it would make more sense to compare small gang vs. small gang fights when balancing decisions are made?

Drake still works. You just have to be willing to work with it a bit, and find a new build or two. But there is a radical concept! Getting way from cookie-cutter BattleClinic builds and experimenting a bit..!