Ships & Modules

5 posts in a row may not be the best way to make people sympathetic to your cause.
Two posts in a row with only smileys sound like such.

Since you are aware that posts can be edited, why didn't you improve the original ones with what you wanted to say when you noticed they were empty quotes only (if I remember correctly), instead of make new ones...

it's still overpowered, at BC V at least. I've been flying a myrmidon up until now for missioning and even though it also has a strong passive shield tank it took forever to do level 4s because it's projection sucks (35-45km range on artillery, tracking issues).

Now i'm flying a drake with sub-standard missile skills (launcher op 5, heavy missile 3, missile supports all 3s) and it's twice as easy as the myrm to do missions in.

Missiles just seem overpowered in general because they aren't subject to tracking. You get in range and you shoot, no thinking needed.

People are so hung up about what their dps says in eft, but what's your REAL dps huh? My drake might only have 320 dps but i can safely say when im within 47km i am doing that full 320 dps on anything bigger than a destroyer.

However with my myrm or any other turret ship, depending on your luck the dps your ingame window or eft says is almost never what you actually get.

Now as I get into t2 launchers and slowly improve my missile skills eft says I can potentially get up to 520 dps with tech 2 furies and that's before the buff to drake damage that happened this patch.

And just to add to all this: 75km targeting range (LR targeting V) and 8 max target lock.

Tsukino said, before the patch her Drake potentially could put out 520dps with T2 Furies.

OK, that's cool. I'm thinking she was using Scourge Furies.

After this "buff", the Drake now could put out 508dps/3116 volley, with Scourge Furies at 47 km. But scourge can't be used all the time, so the Drake with Mjolnir Furies only puts out 339dps/2077 volley.

For the rest of my examples, I've only concentrated on the weapon systems, using the same set-ups for each: 6 HMLs, CNBCUs, and CN Mjolnir heavies. (because that's probably what I'd try to use.)

Drake- 289dps/1769 volley at 62km

Navy Caracal- 289dps/1769 volley at 94km.

Tengu- 462dps/1769 volley at 94km.

Nighthawk- 385dps/1769 volley at 62km.

Cerebus- 321dps/1474 volley at 114km (5 launchers)

Caracal - 321dps/1474 volley at 94km. (with only 5 launchers!)

I know, I know, the Drake and the Tengu still have their tanks, but that's not what I'm comparing.

So what's happening? Bringing the Drake down to cruiser level- it now has cruiser damage with a BS tank (as mentioned before).

Or, does it now balance out the Naga, for example, BS damage with a cruiser tank.

On another note, I will be trying out many of the ships that got refitted, like the Cyclone, and I will be checking out the Ferox with 7 turrets.

-Jaz

One of the problems with the game is **** that needs to be nerfed.

Absolute BS...Ferox doesn't get the playtime cause hybrids suck goat sack. Blasters are fine and dandy but compared to AC's inferior sorry. No damage types, high cap usage, crappier tracking, less range. Saying the t2 BC's need a nerf because T1 BC's don't compare is ludacrous, fix the damn t1 BC's. Saying the drake should be nerfed because the ravens tank sucks is even more ********...fix the pos ravens and leave the Drakes alone. Don't see anyone complaining about Dominix except those killed by em...

Ravens are inferior to newer players because they take so much SP to make them worth flying and for only a marginal gain wheras I jump in a domi with signifgantly less SP and I walk all over you, so how is this logical? Sure a raven will kill missions faster then a drake but you need t2 cruises and really really good skills to make it a cap stable perma rep in comparrison to those who flew drakes.

The root of the problem here is the QQ about pvp drake blobs but anyone with half a brain knows that as soon as one gets nerfed another will take it's place so why not spend some time forcing people to stop fighting in blobs OH WAIT hold on now since half the dev teams are in blob alliances this makes no sense...Sorry if this pisses you guys at CCP off but for years ive paid you good money to watch you make this game easier for alliances and harder on the po folk, well suck it and do the job you guys have been avoiding. Small corps and small crews have a hard enough time making their way with all the gate camping blobs, the suicide gank crews and the large machine alliances without you guys taking away their work horses because some other alliance guys cried about a drake blob.

Sure I agree with range nerfs to heavy missiles and the fact tracking disruptors work on them now but they still do less damage and take 4x the amount of time to hit their mark so it IS a trade off already. Ive sat in a nano ship letting folks fire on me without ever getting a shot in with missiles but i slip up on one volley from a gun boat and im splatted....HUGE difference.