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Conduct Unbecoming a PIE officer

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Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#61 - 2013-02-18 21:37:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
I warned the fool and he did not listen. We would rather have this happen than allow the fool to remain in our ranks.

So really perhaps we should thank you.

But we won't.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#62 - 2013-02-18 22:40:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Anabella Rella
Hah, it looks like Vitalia got the last laugh. Too bad she didn't appreciate von Khan's poetry or he might have gotten away with it.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Knoot Enderas
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-02-18 22:44:27 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And this whole little thing proves MY point,

that you all are still as easy to manipulate as small children.

My will causing your actions. Sabik principles made manifest.



I say a few words to one of yours, he follows like a dog.

I say another few words, and PIE jumps like 1st year cadets to do my bidding and have him removed.

Spin it any way you like, but everyone else has seen how easily you all are moved like pieces on a board game.


Your principles are those of a troll. Textbook stuff. Spreading inflammatory statements with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response, then attempting to keep things going for as long as possible. I suppose the only reason why the Praetoria are not collectively ignoring this topic altogether, is the fact that almost nobody appears to sympathise with you, making any PR-damage negligible.

When this topic dies down, as it eventually must, the pious capsuleers will think you an untrustworthy harlot and a witch. The rest will merely think you a tease who doesn't put out.
Jev North
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-02-18 23:37:49 UTC
Only when this topic dies down..?

Well, it's good to know that you're catching on to what Silas has been saying and doing for the last year or two, at least.

Tell me one thing, though - in your book, not putting out is a negative quality?

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

Brother Ludwigus
#65 - 2013-02-19 00:07:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Brother Ludwigus
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And this whole little thing proves MY point,

that you all are still as easy to manipulate as small children.

My will causing your actions. Sabik principles made manifest.



I say a few words to one of yours, he follows like a dog.

I say another few words, and PIE jumps like 1st year cadets to do my bidding and have him removed.

Spin it any way you like, but everyone else has seen how easily you all are moved like pieces on a board game.


I'm sure in your head where you are the exact centre of the entire cluster that made perfect sense.




Jev North wrote:

Tell me one thing, though - in your book, not putting out is a negative quality?


It is when you're a tease.

Soli Deo gloria.

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#66 - 2013-02-19 00:40:37 UTC
Brother Ludwigus wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And this whole little thing proves MY point,

that you all are still as easy to manipulate as small children.

My will causing your actions. Sabik principles made manifest.



I say a few words to one of yours, he follows like a dog.

I say another few words, and PIE jumps like 1st year cadets to do my bidding and have him removed.

Spin it any way you like, but everyone else has seen how easily you all are moved like pieces on a board game.


I'm sure in your head where you are the exact centre of the entire cluster that made perfect sense.




Jev North wrote:

Tell me one thing, though - in your book, not putting out is a negative quality?


It is when you're a tease.


Good to know that PIE pilots are pigs.
Brother Ludwigus
#67 - 2013-02-19 00:50:25 UTC
Knoot Enderas wrote:
The rest will merely think you a tease who doesn't put out.


Jev North wrote:
in your book, not putting out is a negative quality?


Maybe now that I've extracted the relevant quotes you can see the context, Mr. Thessalonia. I do happen to think that not "putting out" is a very negative quality in one who makes it seem they will. Harlotry not followed through on is as bad at least as straight up harlotry. Does that make me a pig?

Soli Deo gloria.

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2013-02-19 00:52:18 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:


Good to know that PIE pilots are pigs.


Ugh, tell me about it. Those comments made me want to take a decon shower.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Vlad Cetes
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#69 - 2013-02-19 01:32:06 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Brother Ludwigus wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And this whole little thing proves MY point,

that you all are still as easy to manipulate as small children.

My will causing your actions. Sabik principles made manifest.



I say a few words to one of yours, he follows like a dog.

I say another few words, and PIE jumps like 1st year cadets to do my bidding and have him removed.

Spin it any way you like, but everyone else has seen how easily you all are moved like pieces on a board game.


I'm sure in your head where you are the exact centre of the entire cluster that made perfect sense.




Jev North wrote:

Tell me one thing, though - in your book, not putting out is a negative quality?


It is when you're a tease.


Good to know that PIE pilots are pigs.


Good, then I procure bacon from their corpses. I understand humans absolutely love bacon.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#70 - 2013-02-19 01:33:41 UTC
Brother Ludwigus wrote:
Knoot Enderas wrote:
The rest will merely think you a tease who doesn't put out.


Jev North wrote:
in your book, not putting out is a negative quality?


Maybe now that I've extracted the relevant quotes you can see the context, Mr. Thessalonia. I do happen to think that not "putting out" is a very negative quality in one who makes it seem they will. Harlotry not followed through on is as bad at least as straight up harlotry. Does that make me a pig?


Very much so. Congratulations on being a cut rate misogynist.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#71 - 2013-02-19 01:41:02 UTC
Vlad Cetes wrote:

Good, then I procure bacon from their corpses. I understand humans absolutely love bacon.


After what I've seen in some of the supposedly highest rated restaurants in New Eden, I can guarantee you there's a market for that. If you get the produce, I can get you a client within an hour.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Brother Ludwigus
#72 - 2013-02-19 01:44:24 UTC
If not approving of Silas' disgusting display and the way she debased a promising young man's to the point of near madness mind makes me a misogynist then so be it. I guess the majority of the women I know are secretly men.

Soli Deo gloria.

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#73 - 2013-02-19 03:15:13 UTC
You should stop speaking now Ludwigus. Just stop.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#74 - 2013-02-19 05:16:50 UTC
Stillness, I pray you.

There is no further profit to be had in this conversation.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#75 - 2013-02-19 12:14:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiberious Thessalonia
Brother Ludwigus wrote:
If not approving of Silas' disgusting display and the way she debased a promising young man's to the point of near madness mind makes me a misogynist then so be it. I guess the majority of the women I know are secretly men.


Please continue.

PIE, you should be paying us heretics, heathens, and apostates for weeding out these awful examples from your ranks.

Edit: In fact, I am going to have to call you out further on this. I have seen the logs. There was never implied "harlotry". The closest that there has ever been in interactions between these two is that Silas once said "You have my interest".

In your mind does that immediately translate to "I want to sleep with you"?

I'm all ears, Ludwigus!
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#76 - 2013-02-19 12:51:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Solarienne
Gotta love victim blaming.

Feeling safe from predation (sexual or otherwise) by rationalising the victims attributes, behaviour or dress is to blame, is a particularly sad way of deluding yourself.

Or in Ludwigus' case, a derivation of that; feeling that his actions, past, present or future, are justified because 'She asked for it' or 'Looked like she was interested' and his PUSH BUTTAN RECEIVE GENITALS logic some how didn't bear fruit.

Von Khan tried his luck, brave boy. With Silas, silly boy. Without testing the water first, suicidal boy. He's lucky he left in the same clone - I've heard of what Blooders do to people they had a lot less reason to act out against.

Still, I am all in favour of continued discussion, I rarely need reason to open fire on capsuleers (or anything for that matter) but people tend to frown less when you can say 'He/She was a confirmed bigot'. More for the list please.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#77 - 2013-02-19 12:55:01 UTC
Brother Ludwigus wrote:
Maybe now that I've extracted the relevant quotes you can see the context, Mr. Thessalonia. I do happen to think that not "putting out" is a very negative quality in one who makes it seem they will. Harlotry not followed through on is as bad at least as straight up harlotry. Does that make me a pig?


It saddens me immensely that while humanity has progressed to the point that we can travel past thousands of star systems in the space of a few hours, cure almost any medical condition in existance trivially (save for those of our own design, of course) and essentially rebuild ourselves entirely on a mental and physical level with relative safety to our own whims... That there are still people who believe that women are in some way obligated to sleep with men if they approach them in certain manners.

Not the reverse, of course, no doubt. I'm not sure which is worse - This notion, or the very fact that you still believe "Harlotry" (the shaming of women who express themself sexually in a similar manner to men) is a concept still of any cultural worth whatsoever.

And here I thought one of the Amarrian peoples greatest virtues was their public dignity and composure. It is rare that I find a comment on this board that actually upsets me, pilot, but you've managed it.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-02-19 13:31:57 UTC
Do not fault them all for the folly of the individual (or the few in this case), Ikiryo.

While the comments of many in this thread are bile inducing and/or mockery warranting, the majority of the Amarr do not lack sense or composure in matters like these.

I imagine, if nothing else, PIE has a few things to look into and I have complete confidence they will do so.

~Malcolm Khross

Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#79 - 2013-02-19 13:54:25 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Do not fault them all for the folly of the individual (or the few in this case), Ikiryo.

While the comments of many in this thread are bile inducing and/or mockery warranting, the majority of the Amarr do not lack sense or composure in matters like these.

I imagine, if nothing else, PIE has a few things to look into and I have complete confidence they will do so.



It was not my intention for it appear that I was, Khross-haan. I apologize if it seemed to be so.

...If anything, I made the remark to draw special attention to how tasteless the attitude was, considering the context of his peers, really.
Anslo
Scope Works
#80 - 2013-02-19 14:09:05 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
And this whole little thing proves MY point,

that you all are still as easy to manipulate as small children.

My will causing your actions. Sabik principles made manifest.


And when have you done anything to me to bend to your will, other than bending over and laughing, holding my sides, at your ridiculous assertions?



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I say a few words to one of yours, he follows like a dog.

I say another few words, and PIE jumps like 1st year cadets to do my bidding and have him removed.

Spin it any way you like, but everyone else has seen how easily you all are moved like pieces on a board game.


Try moving others and see whether the pieces move, or chop of the limb trying to touch them.

Stop with the attitude and flare, you're not Revan, though I can't tell which one of you is worse given both your gas giant sized ego's. And before you say this is none of my concern, you brought this to public, it's everyone's concern. You don't like it? Deal with, slag.

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