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Xenuria
#41 - 2013-02-18 16:50:22 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
1) You've been caught in multiple poorly formed lies over time, why should the player base 1) elect a liar and 2) elect a liar thats not even very good at it?


2) Why are you Mitt Romneying the questions posed to you here?


3) You're clearly unstable, how can we the playerbase ever assume that you the candidate won't go off the reservation at some point?



4) How are we supposed to take you seriously?




Roll

Clearly Unstable?
Poorly formed lies?

Can you cite any actual examples of this please?

CSM 12 Candidate
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2013-02-18 17:36:25 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

Roll

Clearly Unstable?
Poorly formed lies?

Can you cite any actual examples of this please?


Well I would but every time we do you just lie more so theres no actual real point in rehashing what you've already lied about in the past, seeing as you lied, we called you out on it, and you just lied more.


You know very well what I'm talking about, but I'm trying not to bring it all up so that your CSM thread from this year doesn't get locked like the last one you had up.

I'm giving you a very clear chance to simply answer a few questions without embarrassing yourself, its your choice on what path you take here.

You've told some fairly significant lies, I'm giving you the chance to either explain why, recant, or just blow it off and let that stand as part of your platform and do whatever damage it may to your campaign.

Your call sport.

EDIT: And the unstable thing just goes with the habitual lying.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Xenuria
#43 - 2013-02-18 19:57:59 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

Roll

Clearly Unstable?
Poorly formed lies?

Can you cite any actual examples of this please?


Well I would but every time we do you just lie more so theres no actual real point in rehashing what you've already lied about in the past, seeing as you lied, we called you out on it, and you just lied more.


You know very well what I'm talking about, but I'm trying not to bring it all up so that your CSM thread from this year doesn't get locked like the last one you had up.

I'm giving you a very clear chance to simply answer a few questions without embarrassing yourself, its your choice on what path you take here.

You've told some fairly significant lies, I'm giving you the chance to either explain why, recant, or just blow it off and let that stand as part of your platform and do whatever damage it may to your campaign.

Your call sport.

EDIT: And the unstable thing just goes with the habitual lying.



In all seriousness I am not sure what your angle is. You might be trolling but you also might actually believe what you are saying. Your post basically consists of non-specific accusations and baseless attacks on what you perceive to be a history of subterfuge. i am sorry that I can't really address your concerns if you are not specific in what you are actually talking about. If you would prefer to send me a private eve mail then I can answer that way.

CSM 12 Candidate
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2013-02-18 20:26:23 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

In all seriousness I am not sure what your angle is. You might be trolling but you also might actually believe what you are saying. Your post basically consists of non-specific accusations and baseless attacks on what you perceive to be a history of subterfuge. i am sorry that I can't really address your concerns if you are not specific in what you are actually talking about. If you would prefer to send me a private eve mail then I can answer that way.


Ok well, that answers my questions as to your ability to answer simple questions about your compulsion for lying. I assume that you won't mind me airing all of your lies during the campaign.

Sorry about the election, better luck next year.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Xenuria
#45 - 2013-02-18 22:16:12 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

In all seriousness I am not sure what your angle is. You might be trolling but you also might actually believe what you are saying. Your post basically consists of non-specific accusations and baseless attacks on what you perceive to be a history of subterfuge. i am sorry that I can't really address your concerns if you are not specific in what you are actually talking about. If you would prefer to send me a private eve mail then I can answer that way.


Ok well, that answers my questions as to your ability to answer simple questions about your compulsion for lying. I assume that you won't mind me airing all of your lies during the campaign.

Sorry about the election, better luck next year.



Confirming you are an empty bag of hot air.

CSM 12 Candidate
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2013-02-19 01:39:40 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

In all seriousness I am not sure what your angle is. You might be trolling but you also might actually believe what you are saying. Your post basically consists of non-specific accusations and baseless attacks on what you perceive to be a history of subterfuge. i am sorry that I can't really address your concerns if you are not specific in what you are actually talking about. If you would prefer to send me a private eve mail then I can answer that way.


Ok well, that answers my questions as to your ability to answer simple questions about your compulsion for lying. I assume that you won't mind me airing all of your lies during the campaign.

Sorry about the election, better luck next year.



Confirming you are an empty bag of hot air.


Well thats a nice approach for somebody seeking public office, even if just in a game, I come with serious concerns about a consistent behavior pattern on your part and a simple set of questions and the most you can do is call me names.

You definitely seem electable.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Xenuria
#47 - 2013-02-19 02:57:48 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

In all seriousness I am not sure what your angle is. You might be trolling but you also might actually believe what you are saying. Your post basically consists of non-specific accusations and baseless attacks on what you perceive to be a history of subterfuge. i am sorry that I can't really address your concerns if you are not specific in what you are actually talking about. If you would prefer to send me a private eve mail then I can answer that way.


Ok well, that answers my questions as to your ability to answer simple questions about your compulsion for lying. I assume that you won't mind me airing all of your lies during the campaign.

Sorry about the election, better luck next year.



Confirming you are an empty bag of hot air.


Well thats a nice approach for somebody seeking public office, even if just in a game, I come with serious concerns about a consistent behavior pattern on your part and a simple set of questions and the most you can do is call me names.

You definitely seem electable.



Whatever man, I gave you ample opportunity to express your concerns and ask whatever questions you had. You declined. That's on you, not me.

CSM 12 Candidate
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2013-02-19 03:30:59 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

In all seriousness I am not sure what your angle is. You might be trolling but you also might actually believe what you are saying. Your post basically consists of non-specific accusations and baseless attacks on what you perceive to be a history of subterfuge. i am sorry that I can't really address your concerns if you are not specific in what you are actually talking about. If you would prefer to send me a private eve mail then I can answer that way.


Ok well, that answers my questions as to your ability to answer simple questions about your compulsion for lying. I assume that you won't mind me airing all of your lies during the campaign.

Sorry about the election, better luck next year.



Confirming you are an empty bag of hot air.


Well thats a nice approach for somebody seeking public office, even if just in a game, I come with serious concerns about a consistent behavior pattern on your part and a simple set of questions and the most you can do is call me names.

You definitely seem electable.



Whatever man, I gave you ample opportunity to express your concerns and ask whatever questions you had. You declined. That's on you, not me.


I asked you 4 questions, so far you have done the political shuffle on all 4 (not answering in any way shape or form) and then offered an insult.

You are simply not socially adjusted enough to be considered a candidate, 4 questions have completely thrown your ability to interact with another human out of whack to the point that you descended into name calling, and we haven't even got to the part where we enumerate all your lies with proof for the public eye.

This is what I meant by unstable. You, as a person, not as an eve alt, are unstable, and have been for some time.

Your response to 4 simple questions proves that.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Xenuria
#49 - 2013-02-19 03:56:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
In the rare event that I missed or overlooked these "4 questions" I am sorry. When I first responded to you it was because you were making very vague and non-specific accusations and jabs. As I said before, if you actually have some questions then please ask them either here or via eve mail.


Grath Telkin wrote:
1) You've been caught in multiple poorly formed lies over time, why should the player base 1) elect a liar and 2) elect a liar thats not even very good at it?


2) Why are you Mitt Romneying the questions posed to you here?


3) You're clearly unstable, how can we the playerbase ever assume that you the candidate won't go off the reservation at some point?



4) How are we supposed to take you seriously?



These appear to be the 4 questions. I will reiterate that it's difficult to answer any of these without some sort of context. I already asked you to be specific as to what you were talking about (so that I could then answer your questions) and you responded to said request by accusing me of being unable or unwilling to answer your questions.

CSM 12 Candidate
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#50 - 2013-02-19 04:13:32 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
These appear to be the 4 questions. I will reiterate that it's difficult to answer any of these without some sort of context. I already asked you to be specific as to what you were talking about (so that I could then answer your questions) and you responded to said request by accusing me of being unable or unwilling to answer your questions.


Confirming that I'm presently taking Xenuria far more seriously than Grath.

Like I said to dissenters in my own candidacy thread, evidence or GTFO.

http://www.wormholes.info
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2013-02-19 04:21:44 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Confirming that I'm presently taking Xenuria far more seriously than Grath.

Like I said to dissenters in my own candidacy thread, evidence or GTFO.

as much as I'm sure you'd like to dictate the terms of your engagement with the voters, i regret to inform you that you will fail miserably

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#52 - 2013-02-19 04:36:54 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:
Confirming that I'm presently taking Xenuria far more seriously than Grath.

Like I said to dissenters in my own candidacy thread, evidence or GTFO.

as much as I'm sure you'd like to dictate the terms of your engagement with the voters, i regret to inform you that you will fail miserably


You do have a point.

http://www.wormholes.info
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2013-02-19 07:17:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
Nathan Jameson wrote:


Confirming that I'm presently taking Xenuria far more seriously than Grath.

Like I said to dissenters in my own candidacy thread, evidence or GTFO.


Normally I'd agree with you, but as I'm still tabulating all the logs into one easy pile (some of which I've already actually gone over with Xenuria in the past, and even though several thousand people have called him on the lies he's told he insists its the truth, which makes him either a liar or somebody who can't properly grasp reality) so that I won't have to go over this again and again you'll excuse me if I step outside of the realm of normal.


I was giving him a chance to just say "Yes, I made up (lied) about these things here, it was in the spirit of the game and I realize that these things I've said and done aren't actually real".

Only he didn't do any of that.

He's chosen to play word hockey, so I'm going to put him in the penalty box.

Assuming he decides he wants to come clean before I get this all made up and just do his own laundry I won't have to do it for him in a more painful manner.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#54 - 2013-02-19 09:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Jameson
Grath Telkin wrote:
Assuming he decides he wants to come clean before I get this all made up and just do his own laundry I won't have to do it for him in a more painful manner.


I actually wasn't saying you DIDN'T have dirt on him; I just thought it was in poor form to throw out vague accusations without something more substantial at that point in time.

Awaiting any further developments...

http://www.wormholes.info
Xenuria
#55 - 2013-02-19 16:59:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Grath Telkin wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:


Confirming that I'm presently taking Xenuria far more seriously than Grath.

Like I said to dissenters in my own candidacy thread, evidence or GTFO.


Normally I'd agree with you, but as I'm still tabulating all the logs into one easy pile (some of which I've already actually gone over with Xenuria in the past, and even though several thousand people have called him on the lies he's told he insists its the truth, which makes him either a liar or somebody who can't properly grasp reality) so that I won't have to go over this again and again you'll excuse me if I step outside of the realm of normal.


I was giving him a chance to just say "Yes, I made up (lied) about these things here, it was in the spirit of the game and I realize that these things I've said and done aren't actually real".

Only he didn't do any of that.

He's chosen to play word hockey, so I'm going to put him in the penalty box.

Assuming he decides he wants to come clean before I get this all made up and just do his own laundry I won't have to do it for him in a more painful manner.



This is going to be good.

You tell me I have the opportunity to come clean about..... "something" but you once again neglect to make clear what that is exactly. I am trying to take you seriously but every time you respond to me you appear more and more like a troll.

CSM 12 Candidate
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2013-02-19 23:12:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
Xenuria wrote:


This is going to be good.

You tell me I have the opportunity to come clean about..... "something" but you once again neglect to make clear what that is exactly. I am trying to take you seriously


So why wait until I point out the specific things that I have dirt on, why not just come clean? Why do you need my list first, you obviously know that there are things that you should probably do that on, and yet while running for office instead of just doing it you're waiting for a specific list.

I'm waiting on 2 logs. Then you'll have your list :)

Though I'm not sure how happy that will make you after you get it.


Remember Xenuria, some people keep chat logs for a very, very long time.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Xenuria
#57 - 2013-02-20 02:23:08 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
[quote=Grath Telkin]

This is going to be good.

You tell me I have the opportunity to come clean about..... "something" but you once again neglect to make clear what that is exactly. I am trying to take you seriously


So why wait until I point out the specific things that I have dirt on, why not just come clean? Why do you need my list first, you obviously know that there are things that you should probably do that on, and yet while running for office instead of just doing it you're waiting for a specific list.

I'm waiting on 2 logs. Then you'll have your list :)

Though I'm not sure how happy that will make you after you get it.


Remember Xenuria, some people keep chat logs for a very, very long time.


I really don't know what you expect me to say in response to that. You are being deliberately evasive and vague about my "coming clean". If you are a troll then congrats 9/10, but if you are serious and actually believe you have some campaign ruining bombshell that you are planning to drop on me; then I am genuinely curious. I have seen some pretty whacky stuff cooked up by SA and goons. Everything from Chat logs to poorly shooped images of me and oh goodness the spam emails. They must have signed up my email for every service they could find. They sure showed me lol....

Anyway, if you do actually have something that you think is incriminating or otherwise significantly detrimental to my CSM campaign then I would advise you to verify it before posting it. In the long run this will save you alot of embarrassment.

CSM 12 Candidate
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#58 - 2013-02-20 19:18:53 UTC
Xenuria, can you give us a tl;dr of why you should be elected to CSM?
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#59 - 2013-02-22 19:17:21 UTC
******* hell you people, can someone please stop pussyfooting around and come out and say something substantial about Xenuria? I for one don't know his/her history, so I'm absolutely dying to find out.
Mirel Dystoph
Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-02-22 22:32:41 UTC
I'll vote for him anyways. :sun:

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise."