EVE New Citizens Q&A

Well, to be fair, it's more like make

(Amount of isk a dedicated PvE player makes in a month of grinding)*(Number of players willing to buy a PLEX so they don't have to bother with grinding) / (Number of moochers that would rather spend isk on a PLEX than actually give three beers' worth of money a month to the people that make a game they enjoy enough to play)

So as the number of freeloaders that don't want to give money to someone even though they're using the product go up, and the number of people willing to chip in extra beer money for the devs goes down, that price can fluctuate quite a bit. For instance, a year or two back it was more like 200Misk.

I find this incredulous TBH. The D'baggery that goes on in this game is the worse I have seen anywhere! Children behave better than most eve players. From what I have witnessed during my month long playing is that many people that play this game are socially inept to a large degree. They associate anonymity with the right to behave like scrubs.


I would question the greatest MMO of all time. you clearly have not played that many if you conclude that. Also clearly the people that are paying are also paying so they can be aholes. You see them everywhere.

I don't doubt that there is indeed d-baggery going on in EVE (in fact I'm sure of it) but if this game were ever to go f2p that sort of bad behaviour would expand exponentially.

And while I haven't played every single MMO out there, I've played most of the heavy hitters and for my money, this one is now at the top of the list. Just my opinion of course.

wait....Dust and as mature as EVE.

Are we talking about the same Dust514?

Ever since it went Open beta (so not only EVE players), have you heard comms and seen local...

I strongly disagree. I have also never found a playerbase like EvE's in other mmo's. All the other games i'v played for any length of time left me feeling a little old dispite my age. EvE has at least for me provided a trully memorable and unique experience with some of the finest folk it's been my pleasure to encounter.

Also there are d-bags, but really it's down to you to sift through the chaff for the really good parts just like real life. I also consider EvE to be the most expansive and deep mmos i'v ever played.

Nova : You are i believe located out in nulsec atm? If not i suggest it, but if i'm correct about that i think it may explain the sharp contrast between your experience of EvE's locals and that of many others. I found that by leaving hisec and embracing some of the most player driven aspects of the game, i naturally encountered others who shared my sense of adventure. These are the people i will mostly remember from my time in EvE.

Dispite the horror stories, i have learned that people in Lowsec, Nul and especially wormhole folk are some of the friendliest most down to earth people you could meet. They like me and many others abandoned the "Free to Play" atmosphere of high security space for the unknown and exciting world that is out there for those who seek it. These people are (in my experience) more fun to play with than "Grindin' for this months PLEX" people.

HiSec can be really fun for a short while, but it's easy. You don't have to be very smart (no offence intended) to get by in hisec. There are however parts of this game that REQUIRE an above average intelligence to play effectively. It stands to reason you will encounter a more interesting class of people there, even if all areas have their idiots.

Hope to encounter you one day Nova, always like your posts :)

YOUR FACE is socially inept to a large degree.

Ha! That showed her! =P

Thanks Keno good post. Disagreeing without a disrespectful tone! Who would have thought it?

What I have experienced so far in the game is that many seem to love the anonymity behave in an unsavoury way. I must have caught it on a bad few days. I have been lurking on the forums for a while and there do seem alot of people that love to troll. saying things to people they would never say face to face. It has certainly been as bad as any gaming forum I have ever seen. At times no better than "Barrens chat" <--- Famous WoW reference for "your mom jokes and the like. (yes I did play WoW for about six months in Vanilla WoW. Not ashamed of it either. Had some great times and still am friends to this day with many of the folks I met there)

On the other hand I have, I agree with you, also met some great folks too. Several have helped me and showed great kindness. Given advice etc. Through the rookie help channel I have lost count of the people that have private convoed me to offer help. I am sitting on 50 million ISK from one guy! But that is the same in all the MMO games I have ever played.

As for the greatest MMO of all time, this is surly subjective at best? I have played perhaps 30 odd titles in the last 10 years or so many of them fine games. Eve is truly a masterpiece, but to label it the best MMO of all time is egging the pudding.

Greener than a Christmas tree fresh off the farm, and you sound like as much an insufferable shithead as the Old Guard in the days of yore. Well, let me tell you a story kid: a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, a bunch of people who'd been playing this game for a long-ass while and thought they were pretty hot **** up in null sec got pissy about some upstarts in Rifters playing around in their sandbox. On principle, they decided they wanted to wipe these doe-eyed newcomers out of existence and once and for all establish their sovereignty over 0.0. Do you know what happened to this Old Guard? They got their teeth kicked in by days-old players 90% of whom could only fly frigates, said players then going on to topple some of the most well-established and powerful corporations and alliances in EVE. As for those newbies, the kindred and progenitors of those unwashed knuckle-dragging scum you seem to hold in so much contempt, they went on to become the single corporation, then alliance, to have the greatest the course of this game's history.

I am, of course, referring to Goonswarm. From a bunch of new bees recruited on Something Awful in Goonfleet, then Goonswarm and the Red Swarm Federation, then Goonwaffe and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSOLODRAK, then Goonswarm again and the Clusterfuck Coalition-their entire history, nay, legend, runs contrary to such elitist snobbery.

Is EVE likely to go FTP soon? Not likely, especially with the moratorium on AURUM and 70$ monocles. But if it were, I'd say bring it on. This game lives and thrives on fresh blood.

edit: Words of wisdom.

Sadly i have seen how Dust players talk in local. Im sure that a lot of them are EVE players who are messing around, but some of it is just stupid and embaressing to watch/read and makes me really wish there was some way to block Dust players as a whole from local.

Are there immature people in EVE? Ofc there is! But in general you will find that if you are polite to the player(s) in question they will be polite back. Trying to be a smart ass and/or a know it all are most likely two of the best ways to make sure an EVE player will dislike you/loose respect for you in general. Avoid this and in most cases you will find that its a very nice community to be a part of.

I like you