Warfare & Tactics

Please provide some facts to support this.

In the meantime same exact mechanics will likely mean the same exact winning strategy.

whos cursing whoevers winning? we are actually relishing the fact that we now have an opposistion and everyones kills are up and are rising month after month since this iteration. who cares about how many kills were got 4 years ago in a whole fw kills are up wether it be in plex or in space most ppl are happy

how can u complain or even think u know nething about the kill ratio in fw when u do not partake in it urself with ur "pvp" toons?

In order to get the medal you had to take about 10xs that number of systems. Also the amount of alts defensive plexing the home systems you list is likely as high as anywhere.

So you think it was so much different for the gallente to capture systems a month ago even though it was the exact same mechanics.

Yes right no gallente used these winning techniques only caldari and amarr use them. Right. Ignoring reasonable inferences from the data seems to be your forte.

But just so that I know your position.

Lets say we go back and look at the top vp gainers for several of the days when gallente was winning the sov war. Do you think the number of kills for those players, on the days they were the top vp winners, will be much different?

He is pissy he is getting literally zero support from anyone in any militia so he has resorted to trolling every thread possible.

I see, your back to attacking the messenger.

I am just posting some facts and actual data. Do you always react by calling those who posts facts and data, pissy?

The suggestions I made had support but it became clear that ccp was not going to implement them. So most who care, have left the fw sov game to the farmers.

Only batshit crazy people are still actually hoping ccp will fix faction war sov so its not a joke.

The rest of the people posting seem to be from the gallente militia trying to convince people that the sov system, and their medal, is not a joke.

That explains a lot.

It will help. Combined with a sensible timer rollback and it will solve the problem.




No I do not know where they all are nor do you. They are not everywhere. On average I will go through 2-3 systems before I will find an enemy running a plex. Moreover in larger systems I have to warp around to find which plex they are in.

A notification system would cut that down time easilly to 1/4 or less. Everyone would immediately know right where to go to fight for the plexes.

By making the plex pvpers over 4xs as efficient the alts would be driven out of business.

Some form of a timer rollback would likely still be necessary but it would not need to be draconian such that it promotes blobbing.

Yes, deplexing alts hold home systems. The main difference is that if you chase away the offensive plexing alt, they just go somewhere else or wait for you to leave before returning to cap the plex since they know you won't sit on the timer for 1-2x the time they did. If you chase away a defensive plexing alt, he comes back in a few minutes with all his friends that live in that system and you will get a fight if you want to take it.

You mean you're too lazy to track them down and keep harrassing them? Really?

(timer rollback, a good idea, in addition to you actually roaming about looking for and then griefing the alts, accomplishes what you want)

And since when does pvp involve closing plexes when there is no fight? According to you that's PvE, right?

Sometimes sometimes not, I'm not going to disagree, but it varies. Typically I am not interested in fights where its 5 to 1 with the same ship types anyway.

The point is that after the offensive plexer warps off you then are back at square one where you are looking at another 2 or 3 jumps and lots of warping around before you chase off someone else. This wasted time and effort is why plexing is a game for alts.

If we knew where plexes were being run we could immediately go right where we need to be to fight for plexes.

For each plexer found it might only save 4 out of 5 minutes of time. But when you look at that over time you are making just as much progress in 10 minutes as you would in 50 minutes in the current system. That is a huge increase in efficiency for those who running plexes as a pvper. Conversely that would be a huge hit to the alt plexing brigade. (including my alts!)

A form of timer count back would be good (and likely necessary) as well. But the first order of business should letting players know where they need to fight for plexes.