Intergalactic Summit

As delegate to the Tribal Council for the Vherokior Tribe, under the watchful eyes of my Tribal Chief, I declare my support and solidarity for the Nefantar Tribe, and their people.

Welcome home, brothers and sisters.

I thank you all on behalf of my Tribe for your support and solidarity. It is a heartwarming and humbling feeling for the Nefantar to once again walk among the Matari people.

Thank you again.

You know what I hate? Form letters. Something other than a copy and paste would mean a lot more.

That's not sugar I put in it, it's crash!

Okay, let me get the facts straight in a small chronology:

a) The Ammatar live peacefully in the Ammatar Mandate

b) The "Elder Fleet" comes and kidnaps them to free them

c) They're taken from their homes and sent back to Pator and the Republic, to bad economic conditions

d) They get a representative in the Council

e) Since they're "traitors" they don't have the right to have a Council representative because they believe in God, and thus have to be subject to the decisions of other tribes and their leaders. Oh, and they should never be trusted, doesn't matter what they say or do.

So, which was the point in "freeing" them if you only intended to make them become subjects in your own Republic? Is it that you want your own slaves, then? Because it surely looks that way.

I fought the Defiants since they came to the Bleak Lands, and many of them fell to the lasers of my squad. And I can tell you one thing, even if we were enemies, and even if the Defiants were little more than a big group of terrorists, they believed in your Republic a lot more than you, who claim their legacy, do.

Your ancestors whisper to you? I'm sure they're saying they are ashamed to see what you have become.


PD: it certainly seems like we have a new social trend by repeating statements starting here! I'm sure the Gallente social circles must be full of people doing this now, it's so trendy! Or something...

Facts:

a) There are no accounts of special violence or problems in the Ammatar Mandate. You can check the logs if you want to, and you'll see no news agencies reported it being a specially violent or complicated region prior to the invasion.

a) The Republic "Elder Fleet" destroyed the main CONCORD station. It's in the history books if you want to check it, I believe there is even video footage of the event.

b) The "Elder Fleet" invaded Amarr sovereign space and faced the Imperial Navy. There are also plenty records of this, and I was there.

c) The "Elder Fleet" took thousands of Minmatarr slaves from their shelters, some willing, some not. Then took them to the Minmtarr Republic. This was done with the aid of part of the Ammatar government. There is also ample historical evidence of this, you can go check upon it if you like.

d) The Empress defeated the "Elder Fleet", there is even video footage of this. The taken slaves were not recovered, though, as the Amarr Empire didn't invade Mimatarr sovereign space.

e) There are ample mentions in the news and elsewhere about the Republic not being able to absorbe such a massive influx of freed slaves all at a time. Something that would be even harder when the Empress freed the ninth generation.

f) They get a representative in the council, which has just replied into this topic, proving not only they have one, but he counts with the backing of the representatives of all tribes.

g) You brand them traitors, claim they have no right to participate in government, and are not to be trusted. You can read it in this same thread. Basically, this means making them powerless in your society, if not even outcasts, and the lowest social class. Akin to slavery, as they would have no voice in government, nor in the issues that guide their lifes, as they should not have a representative and should not be trusted, so they should be watched upon. All because they believe in God.

Is that proof enough for you? Or can you deny any of those facts?



I see, I should have understood sooner: this is a conspiracy! As Gutter Press would say "astonishing!".

Now, if we get back to the real world, and start thinking instead of repeating empty lines (I know, it's hard, but I believe even you can do it!), you'll see that I have no personal interests on the matter. I don't care where those ex-slaves are or how are their conditions, at least not care in the way you imply: I'm not planning on them being in your coucil so they can betray you, nor I'm counting with all this being a complex plot to thwart the Republic from within, nor any other such evil genius' conspiracy.

I'm just saying: you are betraying the ideals you supposedly have. And the memory of a respected enemy I fought against. As I said earlier, if you listen carefully to those whispers, you'll notice they don't claim what you think they say.

I would respectfully request that PIE and other Amarrian propagandists refrain from posting in this thread. Why must you people insinuate yourselves in our affairs all the time? Haven't you done enough harm to us?

Allow us to have a discussion without your interference, please. I've refrained form posting in many a thread where you Imperials have brought up issues of your so-called faith and debated among yourselves even though they were filled with libel, half-truths and outright lies about my people. Allow us the same freedom.

Thank you for your kind comments Pilot Scherezad and all others wishing our people well at this momentous time.

I absolutely cannot believe the stupidity expressed by Minmatar here.

I agree.

Any Amarr and/or their sympathizers in this thread do not need any discussion in this matter. This is Minmatar matter and for Minmatar. I recommend everyone to just set their comm-equipment to ignore Amarrian messages in this conversation.



You claim that Nefantar treachery lacks solid proof? You mean the subjugation of our people is not proof enough? And also, worry not. I do sometimes hear men can't multitask, but I am more than capable of discussing the matter while concentrating on defending our interests against the Amarr.

Remember. Dissension within the tribes is not our creation. And also. If we ignore important internal matters, it can also help the Amarr. Is that what you want? No. If the Republic is to stay strong, we need to be able to handle even the painful internal matters of all Minmatar.

Murientor tribe warrior does not cry over Ammatar. We do however remember well how the Ammatar took care of our people.

The Elders have said the Nefantar were to protect Starkmanir tribe. The problem is... why did the Nefantar who did not know of the "masterplan" acted their role so brilliantly. Master slavers and rapists. Such people do not deserve to be taken into the fold. Most of the Murientor tribe were lost during we were under Ammatar rule. That is why we do not forget...

Never trust an Ammatar!

So your saying you don't believe the Elders? I'm genuinely interested.