Crime & Punishment

I am mostly curious how the Order justifies blowing up ships of miners who are talking in local and not afk. This tells me they are not after change, only after extortion money. It all sounded reasonable until they started targetting non afk ships. I'm just curious.

Two Words

Mining Permit.

The solution to all of this seems rather simple to me.

1) Don't mine AFK
2) Mine aligned to a station or celestial
3) If the minerbumpers show up in your system, don't pay the extortion fee
4) If they invade the belt you're in...move
5) Profit

For crying out loud, miners. They have a map posted on their website.

/facepalm

Or better yet come to null mining is great out here

Brutix didn't align as fast and arrived late to the party. I had client issues and arrived even later (hence I'm not on the killmail sadly). But even without full fleet dps, the good guys won. =)

I think at this point all the reasonable human miners have bought permits. What we are left with are special snowflakes and bots. This guy was of the former variety. He locked the scout with his big bad unarmed Orca, even when it innocently continued to mine. He was aligned out, but didn't bother to move. If he had the right size of mwd he might have been able to warp out when 14 reds just jumped into system, but I doubt he was paying attention to local. The gank itself would have surely failed, considering my client crash and Trasks Brutix align delay, if the Orca hadn't equpped two cargohold expanders, which dropped its EHP by a whopping 15,000.

Christ, m8. This is EvE. Who da*uque ever tought it was about the AFK targets, for real?

Most of us in the New Order feel the same way. In the beginning I thought it would be a difficult battle with stiff opposition. That just hasn't happened. Our "opposition" mainly consists of spectators. Station campers who watch our Catalysts leave and then watch our pods come home. Belt campers, many of whom are paid to be there, who watch exhumers destroyed by Catalysts, and Catalysts destroyed by CONCORD. Occasionally they will manage to "help" CONCORD punish us, and get a kill mail of dubious value. Every now and then they manage to pop one of our pods after the gank, getting us back to station more quickly. Only rarely have they ever saved a miner's ship. We do have a couple of bold enemies willing to suicide themselves to gank New Order scouts, and I salute them, even though the cost of the gank almost always exceeds the value of the target.

The newest idea from the opposition seems to be targeting miners who have purchased New Order mining permits. Since targeting New Order assets was not proving productive, apparently the idea is now to punish the pragmatic permit-holders - miners who seek only to mine in peace - and, I suppose, to dissuade others from becoming Code-compliant. This makes little sense to me, since (a) the New Order is so well funded by its shareholders that any potential disruption in permit sales would have zero affect on New Order oeprations, and (b) ganking miners to oppose the ganking of miners? Huh? At any rate, I see no reason to think this effort will be any more organized than the past failures.

I am encouraged by the changes in behavior I have seen, and not only that of Code-compliant miners. Each time our actions cause a miner to improve his tank, or switch to a Skiff, or become more vigilant, or take up arms against us, or even just to actively argue with us in local, I feel we have succeeded.

Interview guy was a little touchy, maybe he makes money in highsec. This is worthy of further research.