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Null Sec carebear ship spinners and their tears over High Sec

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#121 - 2013-02-17 05:44:36 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Sickburn wrote:
Incursions nerfed, drone poop nerfed, NPC AI ( taking away most drone DPS ) making missions take longer is a nerf, removing faction drops from missions

All of these apply to low/null.

Sickburn wrote:
I don't like they way you play so im gonna cry nerf until CCP fucks your playstyle, same lame thread every day same lame people moving the ball forward

It has nothing to do with the way you play, at all. It has everything to do with what the game hands you on a silver ******* platter for staying in the safest area of space.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Aren Madigan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2013-02-17 06:17:57 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

It has nothing to do with the way you play, at all. It has everything to do with what the game hands you on a silver ******* platter for staying in the safest area of space.


An enjoyable experience playing the game they want to play instead of worrying about how everyone else plays the game?
To get the really cool stuff, you need lowsec/nullsec or A LOOOOOOOOOT more work in high sec. Explain how this is a problem?
cooly 0
Doomheim
#123 - 2013-02-17 06:33:31 UTC
If you live in Null and think Highsec is where the isk is at your doing it wrong, never had a nightmare BP worth 900 million drop in a lvl 4.

Plus Anoms > missions any day of the week.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2013-02-17 07:05:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Aren Madigan wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
1) There are no "sov space isk fountains" in null - there are T2 minerals, which do not generate any isk but instead are traded for ISK that already exists.
2) You do not have sov space ISK sinks like sov bills to pay either.
3) I agree with killing bots and boosting null income unrelated to sov holding.


And yet its those T2 materials that put a VERY large portion of the universe's ISK into null's hands, isn't it? Or supplies their T2s which is a large reason to want ISK in the first place. I mean, holy christ, I doubt many high sec alliances sort of groups like SOMER could even imagine having the money to manage the monthly upkeep of the number of systems that the big power blocs do. Maybe there needs to be more reason for individuals to head out that way, but your complaint essentially boils down to "We can make money hand over fist, but we can't print money"

First question: No T2 minerals are fairly irrelevant to holding space for 28 out of 35 nullsec regions. Also SOMER doesn't have to pay hundreds of billions in cost. Gross profit is rather irrelevant when the discussion is oriented around net profit.
Second question: There was no complaint in said post. Merely informing someone what a ISK fountain is and isn't, and what moon income covers and does not.
Esteban Dragonovic
Saidusairos Nebula Concern
#125 - 2013-02-17 07:22:36 UTC
Lets see...

Increadbly daft and uninformed opinions presented in a manner of indescribably smug proportions and near fruedian interpritations of responses all wrapped up in a cute collection of propper grammar and condecension.

Ladies and gentlemen I present to thee a pristine example of a member of the troll family: trollicous pretencicous.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#126 - 2013-02-17 07:53:57 UTC
cooly 0 wrote:
If you live in Null and think Highsec is where the isk is at your doing it wrong, never had a nightmare BP worth 900 million drop in a lvl 4.

Plus Anoms > missions any day of the week.

Nightmare BPs don't add isk to the economy.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Aren Madigan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2013-02-17 07:58:23 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
cooly 0 wrote:
If you live in Null and think Highsec is where the isk is at your doing it wrong, never had a nightmare BP worth 900 million drop in a lvl 4.

Plus Anoms > missions any day of the week.

Nightmare BPs don't add isk to the economy.


But it puts that ISK in YOUR pocket for less work than it took to generate that ISK, and its really not hard to find buyers when you get right down to it. So again I ask, what's the problem? Economy is stable, the most pricey things are out in nullsec, hell the best ISK generating things are out there short of sov null if you can avoid being blapped. What's the problem?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#128 - 2013-02-17 09:54:06 UTC
ITT: EVE-UNI and NPC corp posters think BPCs valued by players at 900M a piece are a regular and plentiful source of income
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#129 - 2013-02-17 09:56:27 UTC
cooly 0 wrote:
If you live in Null and think Highsec is where the isk is at your doing it wrong, never had a nightmare BP worth 900 million drop in a lvl 4.

Plus Anoms > missions any day of the week.


Did you ever wonder what those "LP" things your agent keeps talking about are?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#130 - 2013-02-17 10:00:24 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
ITT: EVE-UNI and NPC corp posters think BPCs valued by players at 900M a piece are a regular and plentiful source of income


I hear that they're worth 900M because every 0.0 player can just pop out in his PvE tier 3 and gather 2 or 3 pirate BS BPCs in an hour. Then back to the station for ship spinning, bluing another 20,000 of the 0.05% of players that live in 0.0, and of course plotting to destroy EVE!

Oh wait. First I have to go empty my personal tech moon that every member of every 0.0 alliance gets. I know it's only worth a couple of bill a week now (Thanks, Obama), but still.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#131 - 2013-02-17 10:24:40 UTC
cooly 0 wrote:


Plus Anoms > missions any day of the week.


If you run missions like we run anoms you too can earn piles of money and unlike us you get no interuptions at all!

Also the reason why you get 900 mil for nightmare BPC is because they don't drop like confrette.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#132 - 2013-02-17 10:55:34 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:


Those stastics are some what misleading. What they really mean is that High sec gets the majoirty of the kills but there is a less kill to population rate than low and null sec.

If you look at the ship loss maps, hi sec has the most losses (probaly due to RvB and a healthy regimin of corp wars and ganking). Overall those numbers mean there are more kills in relation to the size of population of nullsec which is smaller but has a higher ratio of kills per citizens of said zones.

The truth is hi-sec has overall higher ships losses compared to nullsec because there is more overall activity in hisec.


Sounds like you smoked a bit fatty and started thinking about stats.


It's called 4 beers.... Highland Black Mocha Stouts. Actually I take what I said back.

I did the math and the ratio for hi sec is 10.618202

While null sec is 10.83924 so null sec kills edge out hi sec by .2 or so in a percentage when you compare the actual kills so I suppose they are almost equal in their numbers in total kills.

Which means null-sec is just as active as hi-sec. Its just hi-sec has more people that are not participated in PVP.


Tardbear, the percentages are from all kills.

Get it? Nullsec accounts for over half of all ship kills in EVE, while only a fifth live in there. Almost 67% of alts are located in hisec, and account for only 15% of all ship kills.

Redo your math.

.
Norm Tempesta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2013-02-17 11:12:50 UTC
I have perused most of the posts in this topic and I have come up with one important discovery............Ya'll must be smokin' some good ****, give me some.
Ankles McGlashan
Doomheim
#134 - 2013-02-17 11:20:00 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
ITT: EVE-UNI and NPC corp posters think BPCs valued by players at 900M a piece are a regular and plentiful source of income


Poor penniless sov dwellers. :( Ya gotta wonder why you do what you do...

why in highsec, I have only to warp to 0 in a belt and my travelling chest fills with monocles.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2013-02-17 11:56:07 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

It has nothing to do with the way you play, at all. It has everything to do with what the game hands you on a silver ******* platter for staying in the safest area of space.


Null has better payouts and facilities for everything bar industry.

And apparently it has too much ABC and not enough Trit.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#136 - 2013-02-17 12:04:06 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Like clockwork, the most agenda driven null sec carebears come to defend and defame anyone brave enough to speak the truth.

They wait, hoarding their isk, in the hope that CCP takes a huge mistep because of the their crying and gnashing of teeth and neuters high sec to the point of driving unable pilots into their ready weapons systems.

The real issue with Eve is sov mechanics and null sec in general.

Change for a better Eve. Change for the Future.

Fight the Null Sec/Sov fat cats for that change now.



Not really, people come out to shout you down because your post is dumb and you give no concrete suggestions beyond 'NULLSECBAD!!!1!!'.

Now if you tried posting some actual practical suggestions rather than dribbling bollocks i think you would find people would be more receptive to discussion.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#137 - 2013-02-17 12:41:08 UTC
Aww look the goon pets sounding off about nerfing highsec again.
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#138 - 2013-02-17 14:29:53 UTC  |  Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nightmare BPs don't add isk to the economy.

If this is the reason for you hating on hi sec, then I have great news for you; neither does LP.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2013-02-17 14:30:13 UTC
Esteban Dragonovic wrote:
Lets see...

Increadbly daft and uninformed opinions presented in a manner of indescribably smug proportions and near fruedian interpritations of responses all wrapped up in a cute collection of propper grammar and condecension.

Ladies and gentlemen I present to thee a pristine example of a member of the troll family: trollicous pretencicous.


you didn't italicize it!

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#140 - 2013-02-17 14:43:11 UTC
that burn was so sick it was denied life insurance