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Null Sec carebear ship spinners and their tears over High Sec

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#101 - 2013-02-16 17:17:38 UTC
Hedion's oracle wrote:
Ya know. i spent 4 years fighting in null and left recently cause of Blue Donut, not once in that time did i concern myself with whats going on in high sec or its mechanics. the fact that these guys are even concerned with the trivial high sec matters speaks volumes.


Yes I'm sure your ex-alliance bitterly misses their Executioner pilot with no kiills

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#102 - 2013-02-16 18:34:15 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
:glenn beck:


i think that is a fair summary of the op


I would expect nothing less from a goon spin artist.

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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2013-02-16 22:05:41 UTC
You see, for someone in an NPC corp like me, we don't have sov space ISK fountains in null. So to get the lowest risk and highest reward, I do Incursions, despite the lower payout. CCP should buff the payout of nullsec activities that don't require sov space and they should also kill the miner bots in sov space.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2013-02-16 22:50:07 UTC
1) There are no "sov space isk fountains" in null - there are T2 minerals, which do not generate any isk but instead are traded for ISK that already exists.
2) You do not have sov space ISK sinks like sov bills to pay either.
3) I agree with killing bots and boosting null income unrelated to sov holding.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#105 - 2013-02-16 22:51:28 UTC
I wish there was Tissue so I could haul it to the big blue donut in space.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#106 - 2013-02-17 01:46:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Malcanis wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Vaeliel wrote:
The problem with Sariah's position is that she is 100% convinced that anyone who believes there needs to be a change in the direction of Highsec mechanics has at least one character in a nullsec alliance. Further, she believes that this invalidates their opinion.

Even if they agree with her that there need to be changes to the entire shebang.

I just think the change in direction should start in Highsec and continue out through low into null.



Yea, that mentality is borne from nullseccers who say highsec (or nullsec) needs a change when they COMPARE the two. When a nullseccer says they have highsec alts to make money, they compound the problem because they aren't proving nullsec needs a fix, they are following the isk and FOTM by doing what "everyone else does" and says its a problem.

Hypocrisy sucks.


Nullsec players are "hypocrites" for having hi-sec alts? What?

"If you really believed what you said then you'd deliberately make less ISK by not having hi-sec alts!"

How does having hi-sec alts compound the problem? Does having hi-sec alts keep the number of production lines in an outpost low? Does having hi-sec alts make trit rocks in 0.0 spawn more slowly?



No need to argue Malcanis.

You will be elected to the CSM, from there CCP will be so impressed that they hire you as a game designer. By 2015 at the latest you will carry out a very not bloodless coup (after a heroic last stand by CCP Falcon at the 'Battle of the Men's Restroom a few feet from the Breakroom') and be crowned CEO/King of CCP.

Then High Sec will die...as it should.,....
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2013-02-17 02:30:11 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


Then High Sec will die...as it should.,....

And then all shall be well. Amirite?

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Apocryphal Noise
The Harpooner's Rest
#108 - 2013-02-17 03:03:15 UTC
oh look you even signed your post


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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#109 - 2013-02-17 03:04:33 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


Then High Sec will die...as it should.,....

And then all shall be well. Amirite?



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Sickburn
Doomheim
#110 - 2013-02-17 04:05:33 UTC
Yet another High VS Null thread goes the distance, did anyone say remove local yet ? that will get them null seccers butts a hurtin.

Did anyone from Null say nerf mission income yet or say carebear ALOT or tears or something wierd about drinking someones nasty ass tears?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#111 - 2013-02-17 04:10:04 UTC
Nerfing highsec mission income while buffing nullsec income would be good for the game as a whole.
Removing local would not.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sickburn
Doomheim
#112 - 2013-02-17 04:31:57 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nerfing highsec mission income while buffing nullsec income would be good for the game as a whole.
Removing local would not.


Why because everyone from empire will come running to null ? great idea we should try it a few more times and watch it fail a few more times. Roll
Aren Madigan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2013-02-17 04:34:49 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
1) There are no "sov space isk fountains" in null - there are T2 minerals, which do not generate any isk but instead are traded for ISK that already exists.
2) You do not have sov space ISK sinks like sov bills to pay either.
3) I agree with killing bots and boosting null income unrelated to sov holding.


And yet its those T2 materials that put a VERY large portion of the universe's ISK into null's hands, isn't it? Or supplies their T2s which is a large reason to want ISK in the first place. I mean, holy christ, I doubt many high sec alliances sort of groups like SOMER could even imagine having the money to manage the monthly upkeep of the number of systems that the big power blocs do. Maybe there needs to be more reason for individuals to head out that way, but your complaint essentially boils down to "We can make money hand over fist, but we can't print money"
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#114 - 2013-02-17 04:38:07 UTC
Sickburn wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nerfing highsec mission income while buffing nullsec income would be good for the game as a whole.
Removing local would not.


Why because everyone from empire will come running to null ? great idea we should try it a few more times and watch it fail a few more times. Roll



Name the last time this was tried.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Aren Madigan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2013-02-17 04:41:41 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sickburn wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nerfing highsec mission income while buffing nullsec income would be good for the game as a whole.
Removing local would not.


Why because everyone from empire will come running to null ? great idea we should try it a few more times and watch it fail a few more times. Roll



Name the last time this was tried.


Aren't all level 5 missions in lowsec and below? Larger rewards, but don't recall them being particularly active.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#116 - 2013-02-17 05:12:11 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Ankles McGlashan wrote:
it's sort of amusing following because I've come to the conclusion that they both believe the same things. Neither of them want PvE and PvP on the same server and they both believe that forum tedium is a legitimate campaigning tool.


I believe you are incorrect.

Those complaining about HiSec want CCP to force the carebears out of HiSec so that there will be more targets in low/null.

In reality, CCP has no ability to force carebears out of HiSec. Any attempt to do so would simply result in the carebears quitting the game.




There would be more targets in nullsec and low sec if everyone didn't make everyone else blue to each other.
Sickburn
Doomheim
#117 - 2013-02-17 05:25:09 UTC
Incursions nerfed, drone poop nerfed, NPC AI ( taking away most drone DPS ) making missions take longer is a nerf, removing faction drops from missions, moving lvl 5s to low/null, removing exotic dancer drops, i could go on and on.

Just because Null is a hand holding blue fest does not mean high is broken or should be nerfed.

I don't like they way you play so im gonna cry nerf until CCP fucks your playstyle, same lame thread every day same lame people moving the ball forward
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2013-02-17 05:36:21 UTC
Nerf highsec because all four empires are blue to each other they stagnated empire and they don't fight.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2013-02-17 05:38:00 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
:glenn beck:


i think that is a fair summary of the op


I would expect nothing less from a goon spin artist.


oh my do go on :allears:

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Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#120 - 2013-02-17 05:44:17 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:


They wait, hoarding their isk, in the hope that CCP takes a huge mistep because of the their crying and gnashing of teeth and neuters high sec to the point of driving unable pilots into their ready weapons systems.




Open star map,
filter to pilots in space
all the pilots are in hisec
i mean all of them
you don't know what you're talking about.
and i'm not reading this thread anymore.



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